Hello for the wild community. I'm Iana Young. Today we are speaking with Sky Hopinka.

I think there's something that comes with intergenerational trauma or even intergenerational

violence where it's just like there's

this sort of idea that you have to suffer as much as your parents did or your grandparents did.

And that also gets tied up into this idea of authenticity.

You know, like if we're not suffering in the same way, then are we real?

I think that's part of that sort of transgenerational reckoning.

Unlearning these sorts of ways of disseminating knowledge and feeling and emotion that haven't worked for us or are passing one of the things that we really don't want to be passing along.

And how can we become more intentional about being specific with that?

What do we want to pass on?

What do we want to survive?

And what can we let go? Before we dive into this episode, I wanted to give an introduction to this

incredible guest and share a bit of the behind-the- scenes work that makes for the wild possible.

In 10 years of for the wild, I have had the opportunity to converse with hundreds of

dedicated, inspirational, and often life altering guests.

As our library has grown, so too has the range of guests we've conversed with.

And across the years, it has been wonderful to see how the interest and knowledge sets of our team has shaped our library and guided for the wild into new territories of imagination, inquiry and thought. What is perhaps even more impressive I think is the way these conversations

intertwined with each other and coalesce. For the Wild is grounded in the

philosophies that emerge across conversations, engaging different

viewpoints and vast ways of looking at the world.

Across topics we aim to create media that is grounded, intentional, and relational.

Today's conversation adds beautifully to this harmony. In it I talk with Sky Hopinka

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