Hello, welcome to another episode of Papa Bear Heights.

Today we have Shrumen as a guest.

Shrumen's been on the show before.

He's an amateur mycologist avid hiker world traveler a little bit of everything

and here's an interesting fact that I'd like to share with everybody since this is an everything outdoors podcast, we want, you know, it's not just about hiking,

it's everything outdoors, all inclusive. We're going to talk about skydiving today.

Shrumen, welcome to the podcast and let me start by asking you this,

what the heck brought you or got you to jump out of a plane. Start by telling us that. Well I didn't have a lot of friends at the time and I

volunteered for everything I could when I was in the military but I never got the chance to go to military jump school

And so as for as soon as I had the opportunity to do it on my own as a civilian I went and did it and

You know if the military wasn't going to give me that opportunity, I was going to make it for myself. And it was, I mean, I have a big, I've always been drawn to activities that I'm scared of but you have to perform in the face of that fear whether it's stand-up comedy or you know a lot of

military activities and training.

The things that scare me, I want to move towards.

And especially with skydiving, I said to myself,

you know, if I can be jumping out of a plane and terrified

and still follow the things I need to do follow those steps.

I don't know it was just an internal power I think you get from that.

So once you made the decision you were going to skydive you said okay that looks like a fun or exciting thing to do

What was what were your feelings like counting down leading up to it like you know that night before on the drive over there was or was anything going

through your head like wow this could go terribly wrong or am I sure I want to do this?

Well I recommend everybody do a tandem their first time. I know in some places you have to do a tandem your first time.

Well explain to us, why don't we start them by explaining to us what a tandem is?

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