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Rosebud with Gyles Brandreth

Sir Grayson Perry

Rosebud with Gyles Brandreth

Gyles Brandreth / Plain Jaine Media

Society & Culture, Unknown

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Today Gyles speaks to a remarkable person: Sir Grayson Perry. Artist, presenter, thinker and fashion icon, Perry is a unique figure who has led an unusual life. Grayson was born and brought up in Chelmsford, but his father left the family when Grayson was only four years old, and his mother married the local milkman - a Tom Jones lookalike with an unpredictable temper. Grayson talks to Gyles about the effect this lonely and unsettled childhood had on him: this is a moving episode. Gyles also asks Grayson about his transvestism and about his art. We hope you enjoy this very interesting edition of Rosebud. Grayson Perry is on tour nationwide this autumn, and tickets are available at https://www.fane.co.uk/grayson-perry. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is Rosebud, brought to you from Grovenor House in London's Park Lane.

0:05.5

Wherever you are in the world, I hope you enjoy this very special episode of what's become a multi-million download podcast.

0:15.1

We're very proud of that. I hope you enjoy the show. Cue the music. Hello, and Hello and welcome to Rosebud.

0:43.6

This is the podcast where we explore the first and the early memories of some very interesting people.

0:50.9

My name is Charles Brandreth and today my guest is certainly very interesting indeed. I think

0:57.6

I can fairly describe him as unique. I certainly don't know anybody else quite like him. Unique and

1:04.5

fascinating. He is an artist. He is a potter. He is more than both of those things. He's a formidable figure. He is the great

1:12.9

Sir Grayson Perry. Born in 1960, in fact in this very week in 1960, so happy 65th birthday,

1:21.0

Grayson. He grew up in Chelmsford, but home life for him was turbulent and often unhappy.

1:27.8

Grayson's father left when Grayson was about four, and his stepfather was violent and

1:32.8

unpredictable. I'm going to let Grayson tell you all about that.

1:36.5

Grayson then retreated into a fantasy world of which dressing up as a girl was an elaborate part.

1:43.2

I'm certainly going to let Grayson tell you more about

1:46.0

that. So the fact that Grayson is now an establishment figure, a Turner Prize winning artist,

1:52.4

and indeed a knight of the realm, certainly the only person I know to have sat down to dinner

1:58.3

with King Charles III wearing a frock.

2:01.6

It wasn't the king, wearing the frock, it was Grayson wearing the frock.

2:04.8

He is genuinely remarkable, and I would let him tell you all about that too.

2:09.6

This is going to be fun, a little bit unpredictable, quite moving at times, but certainly

2:16.9

worth listening to.

2:18.3

This is Rosebud with Grayson Perry.

2:21.3

Cue the music.

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