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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

‘Sinners,’ Jasmine Crockett, and the Black Panthers

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.711.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2026

⏱️ 142 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel kick the show off with some awards season reactions, check in on the situation in Minnesota, and react to some criticism of Representative Jasmine Crockett. (0:00) NAACP Image Awards nominations (5:47) Awards season reactions (38:28) Kristy and Desmond Scott’s divorce (53:13) Minneapolis update (1:10:08) The Black Panthers and knowing your rights (1:24:04) Bowen Yang, Matt Rogers, and criticisms of Representative Crockett (2:08:23) Steve Nash and capitalism Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Vote here for the NAACP Image Awards: www.naacpimageawards.net Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Yo, yo, yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? Higher Learning is on, is Ivan

0:11.4

Lathin Jr. And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay. So as we sit down, the NAACP Image Awards

0:18.6

are out. We're nominated for Best Podcasts.

0:23.4

Yet again, I think this is four years in a row.

0:25.3

Is it three or four?

0:26.3

I'm pretty sure it's four.

0:28.0

Four L's in a row.

0:30.0

Don't manifest the fourth one already that we're already out.

0:34.2

Guys, it's a voting thing.

0:36.3

And we don't do a good job of reminding you guys to go out and vote. You got to go out and vote, listening to the podcast, share it with other people. You like what you hear. We're four years nominated. We've lost three times in a row to very good podcast, I will say. But we also deserve to win. We lost some podcasts as I.

1:11.6

Look. Yeah, you shit on Levar Burton. No. No, remember you cursed him out? You were like, fuck Levar Burton. Levar Burton. No, I know you like him, but he won, he beat us the first time and you, you know. He can't beat Levar. Lovar got me through the pandemic. Have y'all ever listened to his podcast?

1:13.9

There was a podcast where he would read short stories.

1:11.6

What was the name to his podcast?

1:32.1

There was a podcast where he would read short stories. What was the name of the podcast? I think that. Isn't that one? It's fantastic. Like a great, great, legitimately great podcast. All right. So shout out to the NAACP Awards. It's very important to be nominated and respected by black people and blacks hopefully we go to the award show this year maybe we will maybe we won't look this is the thing if you guys

1:38.1

want to see us win the award uh you got vote you vote for the nbacCP awards vote for higher

1:44.1

learning really you just like if everybody voted we were you got vote. You vote for the NAACP Awards, vote for higher learning.

1:45.1

Really, just like, if everybody voted, we would probably win because I'm, I wonder if this is a high turnout thing.

1:52.6

It's probably a low turnout voting situation, you know?

1:56.0

But at the same time, we're up against, like, people who are pretty famous.

2:00.0

And let's be real.

2:01.2

It's probably not going to happen. The stack category, but we should try. Golden Globes last night. I don't even vote. I don't even vote for us. I forget to do it. Golden Globes last night. Yes. Amy Poehler from the Ringer wins. Mm-hmm. Shout out to Amy Poehler. Shout out to Alea. Shout to Kea. Alaya. Everybody, Kaya, Kaya, everybody who makes the show that we know over here, Good Hang with Amy Polar. But, you know, that's a show that is a show with famous people and celebrities and stuff like that. And podcasting is something that a lot of people don't pay a lot of attention to. I'm serious.

2:34.8

What do you mean they don't pay a lot of attention to?

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