Hello and welcome to the Slow Home Podcast.

This is episode number 30 and I'm Brooke McCallory, your host and the creator of the Slow Home podcast.

And with me is my husband, Ben.

Good day, everybody.

Welcome to episode 30.

Episode 30, you speak to the one and only.

Rachel Joanit from Minimalist Mum.com.

I think you'll find it's Rachel Jone.

It could well be.

You're very fancy.

No.

No, you're not. No, you're not.

Yeah, no, I chat to Rachel in this episode, and it's just genuinely lovely to talk to her.

We've been, like I said it to her, we've kind of been dancing around each other on the internet and writing for each other and emailing for years, but never actually having spoken, it was really lovely to put her voice, if not a face,

to the words. And yeah, she had a lot to say that you particularly found really refreshing,

didn't she?

It's a lot of, like like hard truths in this conversation.

I mean, she's not afraid to golf terminology, play it where it lies.

Yeah, she certainly sort of bucks a few commonalities, if you like,

and it's not afraid to sort of call it for what it is. Yeah, I found

that really refreshing. You'll, you know, judge for yourself what you think of it, but I really,

really enjoyed it. Yeah, no, so did I. It's just really nice to hear someone say, yeah, you know what,

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