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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Simone Weil’s radical philosophy of love and attention

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, News, Politics, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.610.8K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Sean Illing speaks with history professor Robert Zaretsky about Simone Weil, a 20th-century French writer and activist who dedicated her life to a radical philosophy of love and attention. They discuss how she inspired her contemporaries — like Albert Camus and Simone de Beauvoir — and how her revolutionary ideas have remained relevant and important. Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area Guest: Robert Zaretsky, history professor, The University of Houston References: The Submersive Simone Weil: A Life in Five Ideas by Robert Zaretsky (The University of Chicago Press, 2021) “The Philosophers: Resisting Despair” by Sean Illing (Vox, May 2022) The Ethics of Attention: Engaging the Real with Iris Murdoch and Simone Weil by Silvia Caprioglio Panizza (Routledge, 2022) Enjoyed this episode? Rate The Gray Area ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of The Gray Area. Subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Support The Gray Area by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by: Engineer: Patrick Boyd Editorial Director, Vox Talk: A.M. Hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:24.0

To read her is to be reminded of a standard.

0:31.0

That's how the philosopher Iris Murdoch describes Simone Vey, a French writer and activist who wrote most of her works in the early and middle parts of the 20th century.

0:44.0

If that name sounds familiar, it's because I've mentioned her in passing a few times on this show.

0:49.0

And I've wanted to dedicate an episode to her since we started our philosopher series last year.

0:55.0

And now we're finally doing it and I'm excited for it because I think Simone Vey is one of the great philosophers of the 20th century.

1:04.0

And she isn't as well known as she ought to be.

1:09.0

She's also hard to pin down. She died very young at the age of 34.

1:14.0

And she had many political and philosophical identities in her short life.

1:18.0

She was a radical Marxist, a factory worker, a labor organizer, even a Catholic mystic.

1:29.0

She was ultimately a woman who bought deeply and lived her philosophy in a way very few people do.

1:37.0

And because of that, she is, in my opinion, one of the most remarkable human beings I've encountered in person or on the page.

1:45.0

And I think there's a lot to be learned from her ideas and her example, not just about the nature of reality and truth, but more importantly about what it needs to live with and care about other people.

2:02.0

I'm Sean Elling and this is the Grey Area.

2:07.0

Today's guest is Robert Zaretsky.

2:12.0

He's a history professor at the University of Houston.

2:16.0

You may remember him from another episode we did on Albert Camel.

2:20.0

Robert is the author of several great books, all of which are about people he admires.

2:26.0

The one he wrote about Simone Vey,

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