Simon Bazelon: Deciding to Win
To The Contrary with Charlie Sykes
Charlie Sykes
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🗓️ 2 November 2025
⏱️ 46 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Charlie Sykes. |
| 0:11.4 | Welcome to the To the Contrary podcast. |
| 0:14.5 | We're going to step back from the Daily News and talk about a report that came out last week |
| 0:20.3 | that sounds some alarms for Democrats, |
| 0:22.8 | but also has some very, very practical advice. |
| 0:26.7 | In fact, this report deciding to win from the Welcome Party, |
| 0:32.4 | opens with a quote from Nancy Pelosi. |
| 0:35.5 | Winning an election is a decision. |
| 0:37.2 | You make a decision to win, |
| 0:38.6 | and then you make every decision in favor of winning. There's a lot of controversy about this, |
| 0:44.9 | of course, because there are a lot of people in the Democratic Party who would prefer to, I would |
| 0:49.2 | say, wallow went a little bit of denialism or scratch their ideological id, then to ask the tough questions, |
| 0:56.0 | like, why are these crazy people beating us in elections? And there are these moments when |
| 1:01.8 | political parties are open to all of this. I mean, I can remember back in the early 1990s, |
| 1:08.0 | after the Democrats had been shalacked by the Republicans in three consecutive |
| 1:12.3 | elections, blown out in 1980 by Ronald Reagan, blown out even bigger in 1984, and then losing |
| 1:17.9 | in a landslide to George H.W. Bush, and there were Democrats who said, you know, maybe we |
| 1:23.7 | ought to rethink some of our ideological approaches and the things we do. |
| 1:28.7 | And there was a group called the Democratic Leadership Council, I believe, headed up by |
| 1:34.2 | Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton. |
| 1:36.5 | He said, you know, we need to moderate some of our positions. |
| 1:39.9 | And sure enough, he went on to serve for eight years. |
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