This is the John Fuglesang podcast.

This is Sirius XM Progress.

I'm John Fuglesang.

Thank you for joining us.

I have so been looking forward to another edition of still here with Simon and Julie because we need it.

Disappointed, yes, surprised, nope. So said Simon Moya-Swith's Twitter this week. He's an

Oglala Lakota and Chicano journalist, contributing writer at NBC News and The Nation. He's the author

of the forthcoming book, Your Spirit Animal is a jackass, an adjunct professor of indigenous studies

at the University of Colorado, Denver.

Simon, welcome back.

Lovely to be here, man.

I'm thrilled you're here. I'm going to need Julie here, too.

Julie Franchella is a mental health professional with over 30 years of experience and handling

complex trauma with indigenous youth and families.

She's an enrolled member of the Ojibwe of Batchewana First Nation Reserve.

She teaches

Indigenous Studies at Durham College, focusing on the impacts of colonization on First Nations people.

Julie, welcome back. Thank you for having us back. We're always happy to be here.

Well, I think there's no pairing the world needs more right now than a trauma therapist

and a ferocious activist. So I'm so glad you're both with us

together. Simon, you were just mentioning something in the break about people saying that,

people who say they want to leave the country after a bad election. And we hear this all the time.

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