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SIM Ep 848 Chops 253: Messalina - libelled or libidinous?

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Society & Culture

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2023

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Messalina was the notorious third wife of Roman emperor Claudius. But is she also history's top shagger? Or its most maligned woman? Or, and hear us out, can she be both? Hannah got on the Zoom with historian Honor Cargill-Martin, author of new book, Messalina: A Story of Empire, Slander and Adultery, to learn more. They also find the time to fangirl about Mary Beard. Because they're only human. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/standardissuespodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello Hannah here and welcome to this episode of Sunday Chops and this time I have a

0:19.7

rural cracker for you. I am talking to historian Anna Cargill Martin about her new book Messulina,

0:27.0

a story of empire, slander and adultery, which is released this week, more specifically

0:33.3

on Thursday, the 11th of May. If you're wondering who Messulina is, I'm going to give you

0:38.3

a bit of background. She was the third wife of Roman Emperor Claudius. She was a cousin

0:43.7

of Emperor Nero, a second cousin of Emperor Caligula, and a great grand niece of the first

0:50.4

Emperor Augustus. So, you know, in terms of the early days of the Roman Empire, about

0:57.4

as well connected as it was possible to be. She was born somewhere between 17 and 20 AD and

1:04.7

died in 48 AD, and subsequent to her death has been largely remembered as a sexually insatiable

1:11.7

woman. How much of this is due to the fact that history was written by her enemies or

1:16.9

written by men? Who was she really? You can expect the answers to those questions and

1:22.0

more in the following interview. You are welcome.

1:29.1

I am joined by classicist and author Anna Cargill Martin, author of a new book Messulina,

1:35.7

a story of empire, slander and adultery. Thank you for joining me.

1:40.7

No, thank you so much for having me. Messulina, she's a woman so notorious and twice

1:46.3

in this last week, I've told someone that I was reading a book about her, and twice

1:50.0

I have accidentally said Melisandra, rather than Messulina, and for anyone who doesn't

1:55.5

know, Melisandra is the sexy witch in Game of Thrones, and I think maybe that tells us

1:59.9

quite a lot about Messulina and her reputation. I quite like that comparison, actually.

2:06.5

I think probably a good place to start. I listen to the Restisted History podcast. I absolutely

2:10.5

love it. Tom Holland gets asked all the time, the question, when you're talking about things

2:15.5

that happened 2,000 years ago, how do you know? I thought perhaps we could maybe run our

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