SIM Ep 693 Chops 234: We [Still] Can’t Consent to This

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🗓️ 23 January 2022

⏱️ 37 minutes

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“Random angry woman” Fiona Mackenzie was appalled when she saw the ‘rough sex’ defence being used in the horrific killing of Natalie Connolly in 2016 – a defence which, in December 2018, saw her killer sentenced to just three years and eight months in prison. And so Fiona did something about it, starting We Can’t Consent To This to highlight and then to campaign against men claiming ‘consensual rough sex’ as a defence against injuring and killing women. Last year, a new amendment was added to the Domestic Abuse Bill ruling out "consent for sexual gratification" as a defence for causing serious harm to a person. But is it working? In this episode of the Sunday Chops, Mick chats to Fiona about this, about why choking is always dangerous and about how Fiona and her We Can’t Consent To This co-founder, Louise Perry, have since further expanded the campaign to fight the normalisation of male violence against women and girls during sex. A heads up, that the topic is – clearly – awful, and Mick and Fiona do go into some detail about the horrific brutality of male violence against women and girls during sex. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/standardissuespodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:48.5	All right, let's not Mickey here to bring you news of this week's Sunday chops. I got on the zoom
1:07.5	with fierce AF campaigner Fiona McKenzie blowing with new motherhood and an even fresher MBE.
1:14.9	The latter in recognition for all the hard and excellent work she's done with we can't consent to
1:20.6	this. Now, my description of what we can't consent to this is and does also serves as your
1:26.6	heads up that some of, in fact, most of the stuff Fiona and I chat about in this podcast is to
1:32.9	put it bluntly fucking horrible. And that is because Fiona started we can't consent to this in 2019
1:39.4	to highlight and then to campaign against men claiming rough sex as a defense against
1:45.2	enduring and killing women and how violence against women and girls during sex is being normalised.
1:51.6	Choking or to give it its more accurate name strangulation comes up a lot in these cases and
1:57.0	Fiona and I do go into detail of what that entails. There is hope though amid the fucking horror
2:03.9	and a lot of that is thanks to Fiona and her team but I'll let her tell you the good news.
2:10.8	Hello, I am joined on the zoom by Fiona McKenzie, one of our favourite self-proclaimed
2:15.7	random angry women and founder of We Can't Consent to this, a campaign highlight in the alarming
2:21.5	trend of men claiming rough sex as a defense against injuring and killing women. Fiona,
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