Outside the box. Hello and welcome to Outside the Box, first one of 2022. I am joined by Mickey

Noonan. Oh lah. I thought maybe I'd be like Elaria Baldwin. That's why I'd be in Spanish

for a bit. What Spanish name would you pick? Macalia. Hose. Can I be Hose? Sorry, because

she can. And Jen offers. I prefer her nifa if you don't mind. It works with your name. It

works. So quite a lot of stuff to talk about at the top that's either very near or there's

news on or whatever. So let's start there. Channel 4 has a new drama, Screw, starring

Nina Susania. Who? I like. Yes, we like her. I like her. Yeah, she's great. So I will get

round to watching it, but I haven't. Channel 4 also has a three part documentary about

Louise Woodward, which I did actually watch. I don't know who remembers the Louise Wood

case, but I actually remember having a relatively profound effect on me when it was happening,

when it was live, because she was roughly the same age as me and I knew people who'd done

what she did. And by that, I mean, gone to America to get jobs as nannies. So it felt

quite terrifying the idea that people go off on a jolly to live with the family in America

and this could be an end result of it. I don't think it added anything to the experience

of having watched it when it was going on, to be honest. I didn't dislike it. It's not

good. It's not bad. It's just there. Sorry, for people who don't remember, what was the

end result? Was she murdered or did she do some murdering? She shook a baby. Or she

was accused thereof. Yes, a baby in her care died and she went on trial and was found guilty

of shaking the baby on and the documentary does go into this on some evidence that is

necessarily particularly good, I would say there is still a debate over whether shaking

a baby syndrome is actually a thing. It talks to people involved with the case people.

Sorry, and then what I should say is when it came to sentencing the judge, he sentenced

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