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Standard Issue Podcast

SIM Ep 384 Chops 164: A history of working motherhood

Standard Issue Podcast

Standard Issue

Society & Culture

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2020

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

In the first of this week's Chops, Hannah chats to Dr Helen McCarthy, historian and author of the fantastic new book Double Lives. They chat about the history of working motherhood, how society and feminism have viewed mums and work, and how working mums have viewed themselves. And, in the midst of the worst crisis in childcare in living memory, they ask what the future may hold for women who want to have kids and careers.

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0:00.0

This is a passenger announcement. You can now book your train on Uber and get 10% back in credits to spend on Uber eats.

0:11.0

So you can order your own fries instead of eating everyone else's.

0:15.0

Trains, now on Uber. T's and C's apply. Check the Uber app. Standard Issue for all women.

0:35.0

Hello Anna here and welcome to this week's Sunday chops.

0:40.0

I say this week's Sunday chops there are two this week I know we are generous beyond

0:45.4

words right let's talk about the other chops first that is a full version of what

0:51.0

you might have heard this week a small bit of the interview Mickey

0:54.9

did with the brilliant Penny Windsor about her book Tender, which is about being a carer.

1:01.1

And it's absolutely fascinating. I really enjoyed it and I think I might

1:05.0

have to add her book to the ever-grown pile of books that's at the side of my bed.

1:09.2

When you finish this chops you should definitely go and listen to that.

1:11.8

This chops is one of the reasons that

1:13.6

parked by the side of my bed has got so big because I have been reading an absolutely

1:17.6

whopper of a book by Dr Helen McCarthy. Double Lives, which is a modern history of working motherhood and it is absolutely

1:26.9

cracking and I say that as someone who isn't a working mother. In fact, none of us until

1:31.6

quite recently have been working with us.

1:33.6

You might have seen our good news this week.

1:35.8

But Jen, yeah, has had her little baby.

1:38.3

Lovely, lovely squishy Lyra, who I can't wait to pick up and just oh bite a little cheeks.

1:43.6

Don't tell Jen I said that. I don't think people like the idea of people

1:47.0

biting their babies but that's what I want to do.

1:49.7

And just to be clear Jen did not have a baby so we would understand working motherhood.

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