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The Times Tech Podcast

Sila Nanotechnologies' Gene Berdichevsky: “The million-mile battery”

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2019

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times tech correspondent brings on Gene Berdichekvsy, founder of Sila Nanotechnologies, to talk about being the seventh employee at Tesla (2:35), making the Roadster’s lithium battery (6:30), developing the first new battery technology in 30 years (7:15), the dawn of the electric car age (10:55), what Sila is doing (12:35), starting in smart watches (16:20), being born in Russia (20:05), air taxis (22:25), the rise of autonomous cars (23:15) the second order effects of electric cars (30:30), making a million-mile battery (28:35), why ‘peak lithium’ is nonsense (32:55), on keeping investors on side (36:30), the most expensive real estate in the world (40:05), being handed his first $5m (44:15), the end of the engine (45:55), and when he almost destroyed Tesla (48:30).

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0:00.0

We make bags of black powder, they go into sort of inside of a dark battery, that goes inside of a dark box,

0:05.0

that goes somewhere underneath the floorboard of a car, and yet it makes your car worth buying.

0:10.0

The modern car, the 21st century car, is defined by battery chemistry.

0:15.5

Yo, technology. What is it all about?

0:32.6

Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley. This week I ventured all the way to the island of Alameda, which is about 12 minutes from my house. Usually I only go to Alameda because that's where the nearest target store is.

0:40.2

But last week, I went for a different reason.

0:46.1

To meet this week's guest, which is Gene Berticevsky, who is the founder of SILA Nanotechnologies.

0:48.0

And I'm going to guess that you've never heard of Gene or his company, but you will.

0:54.4

Because SELA has been quietly working on something that could very soon affect all of us.

0:59.8

It is a battery company.

1:02.2

And what they have done is crack a new chemistry, a new battery chemistry, which is the first

1:07.1

since lithium ion was introduced nearly three decades ago. And what that means is that your

1:13.0

phone could soon do more stuff, last a lot longer. Electric cars could become cheaper and better.

1:22.1

Berticevsky's ultimate goal is to become the Intel inside of the electric car revolution.

1:27.8

And a couple months ago, Daimler led a $170 million funding into the company.

1:33.9

So it's one of those quiet companies that could become hugely important for all of us.

1:38.9

And I wanted to bring you that story first.

1:42.2

So I showed up at their headquarters in Alameda to have a tour and to sit down

1:48.4

with you. Yeah, let's go. Let's walk through the whole lab. Okay. So this is the R&D lab.

1:58.6

Yeah. We've added some tools since you've been here, but more or less the same.

2:02.6

We make sort of gram scales of our material, mostly thermal processing.

2:07.6

This is kind of the lab, right?

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