This episode is brought to you in part by the Table Podcast from the Hendrix Center at Dallas Theological Seminary.

I'm Darryl Bach one of the hosts and I invite you to join us as we discuss issues of God and culture,

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There's Dickin and then there's super digging.

There's food and then there's baker's super foods

made with selected natural ingredients and tasty chicken.

The food.

And then there's Baker's Superfoods. I'd like to introduce you to Rosario Butterfield.

Rosario's a friend of mine and she has written two magnificent books, secrets of an unlikely

convert and openness unhindered which is brand new.

And we're going to have a conversation for a few minutes. Some of you are very familiar with her story, some of you,

this is the first time you've been introduced to her,

and I think it'll be really helpful to us

and thinking about how our churches can minister.

Rosario right after the Supreme Court handed down the decision,

many people changed their Facebook avatars to rainbow flag images and

there were people who were celebrating jubilantly just right down from

my office in Washington on the steps of the Supreme Court and you talked about one time

that this was a world when you see that when you see the rainbow flag this

was a world that you helped build what do you mean by that? Well I was a gay

activist so and I was also a lesbian and a professor and the reason that I was a

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