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I'm Dana Stevens here with a Slate Spoiler Special podcast on Side Effects, the new Steven Soderberg film.

Joining me from Slate's D.C. office is Dan Koyce. Hey, Dan.

Hi, Dana.

You are a senior editor at Slate.

I am in the culture department, and I fancy myself Slate's resident Soderbergologist, although with a caveat that I'm not sure if it's Soderbergologist or Soderberg

oligian. Or Soderbergian. Soderbergian. You are the R author of a completist, which is a feature

slate does, where they force some poor soul to watch every single movie or listen to every single

album or read every single book by a given artist, and you chose Steven Soderberg

for yours.

But I was not a poor soul because it was a very enjoyable experience. I watched all his movies

and then also watched every TV show that he's directed, as many short films of his that I

could find. You read his book. I read his book, his books. Yeah, the poor soul thing was

completely a joke. I can't wait to do a

completist myself and I'm constantly coming up with fantasy completists in my mind, but they do seem

very, very daunting. You're really steeped in that person's work for a long time. So has that made you

feel different permanently about Steven Soderberg? It's given me, I think, a lot more affection

for even his most foolish experiments because they seem all of a piece.

Once you sort of get the sense of the experimental verve that he brings to his projects

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