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gone through the specific failures here, the fire chief. And also, if I have a moment this

hour, I want to play the clip from Channel 5 yesterday. The LA assistant fire chief, Joe Everett,

apologizing, heartfelt apology to Pacific Palisades residents It's extremely, extremely hard for me to lift you in the eye

knowing that quite honestly I feel like I failed you to some respect

Moving on, let's get into business I feel like I failed due to some respect.

Moving on, let's get into business. Hey, that's all a lot of people want to hear instead of Karen Bass giving us a minute

and a half of stony silence and all kinds of excuses and defensiveness and denials.

Let's talk now with Matt Heimes.

Matt Heim's a writer and editor and his Pacific Palisades' home burned down last week.

And he describes himself as a former liberal, former registered Democrat.

And this should be it.

This has been the last straw for a lot of people who might be leaving giving giving up on the democratic regime that's been

governing California for so long let's talk to matt how are you matt do you mean well hold on try

try again we had a distorted phone line there how's that that's Can you hear me now? Yes, I can. Matt, thanks for coming on, and I'm really,

really sorry what's happened to your home. And I feel like I've said that 100 times this week

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