Oh, my God, I love your love!

I'm Autumn Brown, a queer science fiction writer, a theologian, a mother of dragons,

the healing justice facilitator for social movements, living on Dakota and in a

Shinabe land currently known as Minneapolis.

And I'm Ajor Marie Brown, a writer, student of miracles, of emergent strategists,

pleasure activists, radical imaginarian, and I'm living on Anishinaabe territory,

currently known as Detroit.

And this is how to survive the end of the world.

Our podcast about learning from apocalypse with race, rigor, and curiosity.

And we are continuing our sibling mini-series, which is maybe the best thing that ever happened

to us.

I'm going to talk to all these other pairs of siblings about life and politics and being

in movement together.

And today we have two people who I have admired, looked up to, learned from, stand.

And they are, there's a few siblings like this where I knew them separately for a long

time before realizing they were siblings.

And then when I realized they were siblings, I was so thrilled.

So we have today, Karissa and Cole.

And Karissa, I know through all kinds of organizing back in the Bay Area, and Karissa and I have

gotten to work together most closely in the movement for Black Lives work and the rising

majority work.

And I'm expecting that you'll talk about both of those things.

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