SI339: CTAs vs ETFs: The Showdown That Could Change Everything ft. Andrew Beer and Tom Wrobel

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Niels Kaastrup-Larsen

Business, Business News, Investing, News

4.8 • 670 Ratings

🗓️ 15 March 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Andrew Beer and Tom Wrobel joins us to talk about the current state of global markets and the pivotal changes affecting our industry. We’re all feeling the shift in dynamics, and we’re here to unpack how that impacts our investing approaches. From the rise of new ETFs to the ongoing debate about the future of managed futures, we’ll cover it all. So grab your headphones and get ready for some straight talk on trends, volatility, and what it means for all of us as investors.

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Episode TimeStamps:

00:47 - What has caught our attention recently?

06:11 - Industry performance update

14:30 - Wild moves in markets

16:55 - Trump dumps on Trump trade

26:23 - A wealth of products - is it just a phase?

35:16 - The developments in the CTA space

36:21 - Are we trying to engineer the impossible?

41:45 - The pros and cons of inflection points vs short term models

50:28 - Why do CTAs replicate the way they do?

57:36 - Are the new ETFs threatening the CTA franchise?

01:01:56 - Discussing performance in the CTA space

01:09:22 - The use of QIS strategies in trend following

01:13:52 - Final thoughts

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0:00.0	You're about to join Neil's Kostrup Larson on a raw and honest journey into the world of systematic investing and learn about the most dependable and consistent yet often overlooked investment strategy.
0:13.0	Welcome to the Systematic Investor Series.
0:26.7	Welcome, welcome, welcome back to this week's edition of the Systematic Investor series with Andrew Beer and Tom Robill, as well as myself, Nils Castro Larson, where each week we take the
0:32.0	pulse of the global market through the lens of a rules-based investor. Andrew, Tom, great to have
0:37.2	you both back on the podcast this week.
0:39.4	How are you keeping?
0:40.9	Absolute pleasure to be back.
0:42.1	Thanks, Niels.
0:43.1	Hi, Tom.
0:44.0	Very well, thank you.
0:45.8	Good to hear.
0:47.2	Now, I really look forward to our conversation today.
0:51.1	I think there are a lot of things to talk about in the wider world, but also how it impacts
0:56.1	our industry. A lot of changes actually in our industry. So I personally feel it's a pretty important
1:01.5	time for us. And I know both of you will bring some very unique insights to the conversation,
1:08.2	which, of course, we may not all agree on the topics, but we will certainly
1:12.1	have a good crack at it. But before we get into all of that stuff, I would always love to hear
1:17.8	what's been on your radar besides the things we're going to be talking about. And maybe Andrew,
1:23.1	from your side of the pond, what's been on your radar?
1:27.7	I think there's only one thing that's been on anybody's radar, which is, is, you know, what on earth is going on.
1:34.4	I think it's, I think it's incredibly interesting in, is somebody who's, you know, who knows a lot of people who have gone into government over time.
1:42.1	A lot of my, my family members have served
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