For 20 years I've been writing about how much I think people should not go to college, that college is not the only

solution out there for a career. In fact, it could be the worst solution because tuition

has risen faster than inflation every single year for the past 50 years.

And why is that? Because student loans is this big scam and the government backs them so college presidents always

know that they're getting their money so they just keep raising tuitions even

faster than society is raising the prices on anything else and then there's the

four years of time spent there's the four years of time spent. There's the fact that, you know, do people really

learn necessary or important skills, I should say, in college and on and on. But James Keys, Jim Keys, former CEO of

multi billion dollar company 7-Eleven, very successful guy has been CEO of a bunch of companies including Blockbuster. It's interesting to hear how he tried to save Blockbuster, but he wrote a book about the importance of education. So guess what? We decided to debate and I'll admit I'm the sort of person who tends to

agree with whoever the last person I speak to is

But he presented some very good arguments and I have to I have to give him all credit for that but I'll let you

hear the conversation and it's well worth listening to it particularly if you've been wondering about this issue.

So here he is, let's talk about college.

This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host.

This is the James Altiger show. First thing I want to thank you about is thank you for leading 711 into a buyout 20 years ago because I was a shareholder.

Oh, nice, you did well.

It was like dirt cheap for so long.

Like it was trading for seven times earnings forever.

And that wasn't so bad, making a lot of cash, had a lot of cash.

And I don't remember exactly all the statistics, it's 20 years ago, but I remember thinking, oh, this is 7-11 and it's people

don't seem interested. Like it's a well-known brand. I don't know what was going on.

Yeah, we literally went from 10 years, the same store sales declined to 10 years of same store

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