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When members of Congress and even the vice president are sworn into office, they say an oath,

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January 6, it was coming from the top.

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Seasonal influenza may be running roughshod over your kids' school or your office, but it's highly likely you don't know a single person who's been infected with H5N1, also known as bird flu.

And even if you did as far as we know, it can't be passed from one person to another.

So why are some public health advocates sounding alarm bells that we are not doing enough to keep it under control?

From KERA in Dallas, this is think. I'm Chris Boyd.

If COVID taught non-scientists one thing about virology, it is that some pathogens can rapidly evolve,

gaining the ability to cross over into different species, becoming more

or less dangerous to individuals infected, and developing new paths of transmission, including

from person to person, potentially. That doesn't seem to have happened yet with this strain of

bird flu, but if it does, it is possible we could find ourselves in the throes of another pandemic.

Apurva Mandavili is a science and global health reporter at the New York Times, where you can read her reporting on bird flu.

Apurva, welcome to think.

Thanks for having me.

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