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Practical Stoicism

Should Women Study Philosophy?

Practical Stoicism

Evergreen Podcasts

Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.8 β€’ 662 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 29 January 2024

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

In today's episode, I explored the question of whether women should engage in the study of philosophy, particularly Stoicism, through the lens of Musonius Rufus, a Roman Stoic philosopher. Musonius was asked if daughters should receive the same education as sons, and his response is profoundly relevant today, especially in discussions about gender roles in philosophy. Stoicism, often perceived as a male-dominated philosophy, asserts that Virtue – the knowledge of how to live excellently – is attainable by anyone, regardless of gender. This principle is rooted in the belief that both men and women possess the same rational faculty – a brain capable of learning and understanding. The slight physical variations between genders do not impede the ability to acquire knowledge, including Virtue. Just as men and women can learn skills like math or carpentry, both can equally learn and practice Virtue. Musonius, whose teachings have been passed down over centuries, believed firmly in the equality of men and women in their capability and inclination toward Virtue. According to him, both genders have been endowed with reason by the gods, share the same senses, and have similar body parts. More crucially, both have a natural tendency toward virtue and are equally capable of distinguishing good from bad. He argued that if both men and women are naturally inclined to virtue and capable of discerning right from wrong, there's no logical reason why the study of philosophy – the pursuit of a good life – should be exclusive to men. If it's fitting for men to be good, it's equally fitting for women. Musonius went further to describe qualities that are ideal for a woman leading a good life, suggesting that these are best nurtured through the study of philosophy. He contended that a woman versed in philosophy would be a better housekeeper, a prudent manager of household affairs, chaste, self-controlled, not given to excessive grief or uncontrolled emotion, and a just and courageous individual. These teachings of philosophy, he argued, are universal and apply equally to men and women. Addressing concerns that women engaging in philosophy might become arrogant or neglectful of their duties, Musonius emphasized that philosophy should be a practical guide to life. He compared it to medicine, which is valuable only if it contributes to the health of the body. Similarly, philosophy is meaningful if it leads to the betterment of the soul. The overarching point Musonius made was that everyone, regardless of gender, should fulfill their duties and roles virtuously. His views, though rooted in the gender norms of his time, transcend these to focus on the universal human duty to care for our circles of concern, control desires, maintain emotional stability, and act courageously. In conclusion, Musonius Rufus, a thinker ahead of his time, affirmed that the pursuit of Stoic Virtue is not confined by gender. His teachings remind us that the path to sagehood and the practice of Virtue are open to all, encouraging a more inclusive understanding of Stoicism that resonates with contemporary perspectives on gender equality in the pursuit of philosophical knowledge. -- Become a Patron : https://stoicismpod.com/members Visit the store : https://store.stoicismpod.com Check out Neurohacker : https://neurohacker.com/practical Podcast Artwork by Randy Johnson: https://originalrandy.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:10.4

On the new season of the divided dial from On the Media, we're exploring shortwave radio, where prayer and propaganda coexist with news and conspiracy theories, and where an existential battle

0:22.6

for the public airwaves is playing out right now. Listen to On the Media, wherever you get your

0:28.5

podcasts. Good morning, Prokaptan. I hope you are well. Today, we're going to hear from

0:34.4

Musonius Rufus, a lesser-mentioned Stoic in contemporary times.

0:39.3

I think it is, after all, pretty clear that Epictetus, Marcus Aurelius, and Seneca get 99, perhaps 0.9% of all the Stoic attention in pop culture,

0:49.7

or perhaps it's better to say un-pop culture, as it's not like people are making Marvel films with

0:55.5

any characters from the Stoic canon as superheroes. But pop culture, or un-pop culture, popless culture,

1:03.0

perhaps, you know what I mean. If you were new to philosophy, it would be easy for you to think

1:08.2

these three guys were the only Stoics worth hearing from.

1:11.7

But if Marcus is worth listening to, then Epictetus must be worth listening to because Marcus

1:16.6

learned a lot indirectly from Epictetus. And if Epictetus is worth listening to, then Rufus must

1:23.2

be as well because Rufus taught Epictetus. And on the topic of Epictetus briefly, Michael Tremblay

1:29.1

will swing by the podcast on Friday to talk about anger, regret, Epictetus, and, as it happened,

1:35.7

mixed martial arts. So we will learn a bit more about the Musonius Epictetus dynamic then,

1:40.8

but certainly for now, we can all agree, even before hearing from Michael, that

1:45.4

Rufus is probably worth hearing from. So we'll hear from him today. First, a quick thank you

1:50.6

to a few new patrons. Thank you to Bing N, Carlos R, Nemo, Maddy Comics, Fay, Pep, John C, and Brian Hatch.

2:03.3

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