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Should we worry about deepfakes and an “epistemic apocalypse”?

Marketplace Tech

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Technology, News

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2023

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

It’s getting harder to believe your eyes and ears on the internet. Artificial intelligence tools can generate convincing images, videos and voices. Chatbots can spit out confident misinformation. And Twitter users for $8 a month can basically impersonate anyone they’d like on the site. The specter of an internet full of fakes has a lot of people worried about an epistemic apocalypse: a total breakdown of our ability to perceive truth and reality. It’s something Joshua Habgood-Coote, a research fellow at the School of Philosophy, Religion and History of Science at the University of Leeds in England, has written about. He talked to Marketplace’s Meghan McCarty Carino about it.

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0:00.0

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Listen to Skin in the Game and more from the Marketplace Morning report wherever you get your

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0:29.9

public media, this is Marketplace Tech. I'm Megan McCarty-Korino.

0:43.2

It's getting harder to believe your eyes and ears on the internet.

0:48.0

Artificial intelligence tools can generate convincing images, videos, and voices.

0:54.1

Chatbots can spit out confident misinformation, and Twitter users for $8 a month can basically

1:02.0

impersonate anyone they like. The specter of an internet full of fakes has a lot of people worried

1:09.2

about an epistemic apocalypse, basically a total breakdown of our ability to perceive truth

1:16.8

and reality. It's something Joshua Habgood Koot has written about. He's a research fellow at the

1:22.6

School of Philosophy, Religion, and History of Science at the University of Leeds in England.

1:28.4

I feel like there's been a lot of very catastrophic discourse about the effects of various

1:34.8

new kinds of technology or not epistemic practices, which is to say the practices which we use to

1:40.8

gain knowledge about the world, to find out truths beyond what we can see in here in our immediate

1:45.9

environment, and the thought is every new technology is going to catastrophically disrupt our

1:52.9

practices for generating knowledge, and we're going to completely lose track of truth wholesale.

1:58.4

So partly I want to engage with that discourse and do some critical thinking about whether those

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kinds of very catastrophic predictions are really justified.

2:08.6

What can we learn from how people have responded to some of the recent examples of AI fakes?

2:16.0

Yeah, I think there are a couple of really interesting cases. So the image is the so-called direct

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