Should we impeach Trump now? A fascinating nationwide discussion. Is Nancy Pelosi being strategic with her recent comments? Will Trump's de-evolved behavior become the new normal?
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Thom Hartmann
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🗓️ 13 March 2019
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Thom considers Nancy Pelosi's recent impeachment comments and the circumstances congressional Democrats find themselves in relative to Trump's criminal and unethical behavior. Blaine in California thinks Democrats should go for it or risk being complicit in letting Trump establish a new normal of unethical behavior. Thom agrees that Democrats don't do outrage well. Thom considers the facts of the Trump case, and whether it is more like the Clinton impeachment or like the Nixon case. Maryanne in Phoenix think Democrats should focus on passing legislation on consumer protection, the environment, and getting rid of dark money. Ray in Seattle agrees that if Trump isn't convicted, he will be emboldened. Cathy in Illinois has had a feeling we'll never get rid of Trump because he'll be prosecuted for treason and other crimes the moment he's no longer president. John in Minnesota thinks Democrats should let the courts take care of Trump to avoid alienating Trump believers.
Dave in Washington wonders if the military has been preparing quietly for the possibility of Trump refusing to step down. Given that he's a malignant narcissist and sociopath, Thom wonders how Trump would respond to impeachment- and what would it take to flip enough Senate Republicans to convict? Billy in Texas tries to put down Thom- he thinks Trump isn't really using mob talk by calling his turned lawyer a 'rat'. Thom and his callers- including a woman with connection to the mob- prove Billy doesn't know what he's talking about. Dave in Hawaii thinks we need to take up arms in a 'physical revolution'. Thom says absolutely not. Patricia in Washington suggests bringing international charges in the Hague. Paul Manafort's judge is about to nail him to the wall in New York State. And Elena in Seattle thinks it is time to hold hearings because we've seen enough criminal Republican presidents getting away with it because Democrats wants to just move on. And Robin in Washington thinks impeachment goes nowhere and gets in front of very few people because the oligarch media won't report on the facts. Thom considers Nancy Pelosi's recent impeachment comments and the circumstances congressional Democrats find themselves in relative to Trump's criminal and unethical behavior.
Blaine in California in thinks Democrats should go for it or risk being complicit in letting Trump establish a new normal of unethical behavior. Thom agrees that Democrats don't do outrage well. Thom considers the facts of the Trump case, and whether it is more like the Clinton impeachment of the Nixon case. Maryanne in Phoenix think Democrats should focus on legislation on consumer protection, the environment, and getting rid of dark money. Ray in Seattle agrees that if Trump isn't convicted, he will be emboldened. Cathy in Illinois has had a feeling we'll never get rid of Trump because he'll be prosecuted for treason and other crimes the moment he's no longer president. John in Minnesota thinks Democrats should let the courts take care of Trump to avoid alienating Trump believers. Dave in Washington wonders if the military has been preparing the chance of Trump refusing to step down.
Given that he's a malignant narcissist and sociopath, Thom wonders how Trump would respond to impeachment- and what would it take to flip enough Senate Republicans to convict? Billy in Texas tries to put down Thom- he thinks Trump isn't really using mob talk by calling his turned lawyer a 'rat'. Thom and his callers- including a woman with connection to the mob- prove Billy doesn't know what he's talking about. Dave in Hawaii thinks we need to take up arms in a 'physical revolution'. Thom says absolutely not. Patricia in Washington suggests bringing international charges in the Hague.
Paul Manafort's judge is about to nail him to the wall in New York State. And Elena in Seattle thinks it is time to hold hearings because we've seen enough criminal Republican presidents getting away with it because Democrats always seem to just want to just move on. And Robin in Washington thinks impeachment goes nowhere and gets in front of very few people because the oligarch media won't report on the facts.
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| 0:00.0 | This is the Tom Hartman program. |
| 0:15.0 | Greetings my friends, patriots, lovers of democracy, truth and justice, |
| 0:22.0 | believers in peace, freedom, and the American way. |
| 0:25.7 | So is Nancy Pelosi making a mistake by saying we're not going to hold impeachment hearings |
| 0:30.8 | against Trump until or unless the crimes that |
| 0:36.2 | he has committed are so obvious that our Republican colleagues agree. |
| 0:39.9 | Those were not her words verbatim by any stretch actually but I believe that to be the |
| 0:45.2 | import of or the intent of those words. |
| 0:48.5 | Is she right? |
| 0:50.2 | On the one hand you can look back at the Watergate hearings and I'm not sure that those started as impeachment hearings. |
| 0:56.6 | They were looking into a crime much like right now you have the House Oversight Committee looking into the crimes |
| 1:05.8 | associated with Michael Cohen. |
| 1:07.8 | They were looking into a crime and in the process of looking into that crime. |
| 1:13.0 | John Dean came forward and said, well, you know, |
| 1:15.2 | there's this cancer on the presidency. |
| 1:17.1 | And then that led to Fred Buzzhart testifying that, |
| 1:20.6 | yeah, I put a tape system into the White House or I was involved in it or whatever |
| 1:24.3 | there's a secret tape there and then that led to the committee going to the |
| 1:29.2 | Supreme Court and saying we want the tapes and the Supreme Court saying to Nixon you've got to turn him over and that of |
| 1:34.6 | course was the end of the Nixon presidency. So they never even I don't think got |
| 1:38.6 | to impeachment. So basically it sounds to me like what Pelosi is saying is let's keep doing this |
| 1:44.8 | process that led to Nixon's resignation. Would that be a more desirable |
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