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How to Save a Planet

Should We Go Nuclear?

How to Save a Planet

Gimlet

Science, News, Society & Culture

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2021

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

When it comes to nuclear energy, many people have strong opinions. Some say that if you're not on board with nuclear energy, then you aren't serious about addressing the climate crisis. Nuclear, after all, produces a lot of electricity and doesn't emit greenhouse gases while making energy. Others say that nuclear power tries to solve an illness with more of the disease. They say that nuclear energy, like fossil fuels, is a product of old thinking that ignores the full suite of its environmental impact - the persistence of nuclear waste, and the harm caused by mining for materials, like uranium, that power nuclear energy plants. In this episode, we wade into the debate. We look at the history of nuclear energy, how it became so polarized, and whether it holds the promise to get us off fossil fuels now, when we most need to. This episode originally aired in December of 2020. Calls to Action If you want to be part of reaching the 100% clean energy by 2035 goal for the US, there are lots of organizations working toward this. If you want to join those efforts, here are a few that you might want to consider. If you're a college student, for example, you might get involved with Environment America's 100 Renewable Campus campaign and try to push your school to go renewable. The Sierra Club has a broader campaign called Ready For 100, to help you encourage your community to go renewable. Similarly, in Minnesota, the local 350.org Chapter has the 100% Campaign. Your local 350.org chapter may have a similar program – it's worth checking out. If you can't find a campaign near you, consider starting your own. The Climate Access Network has a toolkit on starting your own 100 percent renewable campaign (joining is required). Check out our Calls to Action archive here for all of the actions we've recommended on the show. And if you take any of the actions we recommend, tell us about it! Send us your voice message, ideas or feedback with our Listener Mail Form. We might use it in an upcoming episode. Sign up for our newsletter here. And follow us on Twitter and Instagram. This episode of How to Save a Planet was produced by Kendra Pierre-Louis. The rest of our reporting and producing team includes Rachel Waldholz, Anna Ladd and Felix Poon. Our editor is Caitlin Kenney. Our senior producer is Lauren Silverman. Sound design and mixing by Peter Leonard with original music by Emma Munger. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to How to Save a Planet. I'm Dr. Iyana Elizabeth Johnson and I'm Alex

0:05.1

Bloomberg and this is the podcast where we talk about what we need to do to

0:08.4

address the climate crisis and how we make those things happen.

0:22.5

I want to play a game of word association with you. Ooh, I like that game. You're

0:27.6

ready? I'm ready. Solar power. Uh, photons. Glorious, glorious photons.

0:35.0

And like, how does it make you feel when you when you hear the word solar power?

0:38.4

It makes me feel like photosynthesis is the OG renewable energy and so why would we not

0:45.3

get on board with that? Okay, wind power. You know how I feel that wind power. It's like my favorite thing.

0:52.0

Especially in the ocean. Okay, so so far I'm hearing two pretty positive responses.

0:59.1

Yeah. Nuclear power. Ooh, I have like a gut reaction that's like,

1:05.2

do we really need to do that? Right. That's my reaction. Like, do we really need to do that?

1:10.8

Can we just get by with solar and wind and like some energy efficiency measures? Seems kind of

1:17.2

it's kind of dangerous. Right. My reaction is maybe a bit abnormal because most people have

1:23.5

strong opinions about nuclear energy, right? There's people who like it and they're like

1:29.9

really into it and they're like nuclear or a bust and there's people who are against it and

1:34.5

those people are really against it. Yeah, more than any other green power source nuclear power

1:41.5

really riles people up on both sides. And we get a lot of emails from people asking like,

1:47.3

can you do an episode on nuclear? And because we are eager to please, we're going to give you what

1:53.2

you want. That's right. Today on the show, we are diving into nuclear power. We originally ran

1:58.6

this story in the winter of 2020, but recently the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on

2:03.7

Climate Change released a report re-emphasizing the need to transition away from fossil fuels

2:09.9

as quickly as possible. Re-emphasizing is probably an understatement. They were pretty adamant.

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