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C. UK. Jonathan Kaye, a senior editor at Colette.

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This subscription will also give you access to all our articles and early access to quilette social events. And today's guest is Dr. Emma Hilton, a developmental

biologist who will be talking to me about Iman Halif, the Algerian athlete who recently won the gold medal in the Women's

Welterweight event at the 2024 Summer Olympics in Paris.

As many listeners will know, Halif has been accused of being biologically male.

There are indications that Halif may have been born with a disorder of sexual development,

whereby a genetically male individual exhibits outward characteristics, at least at birth and during childhood, which are more closely associated with female physiology, which if true would make Halife's case similar to that of famed

South African middle distance runner, Castor Semenya, whose case has been extensively

litigated before World Sporting Tribunals.

Dr. Emma Hilton spoke to me from England where she serves as a research fellow in the University

of Manchester's School of Biological Sciences. Emma, thank you so much for joining the Kool-I podcast.

I appreciate you taking the time.

You're welcome.

It's lovely to join you here.

So I guess the most obvious formulation of this inquiry on my part is for biological

purposes is this person a man or a woman? So I think that we have to think about

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