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Ask the Pastor with J.D. Greear

Should Christians Support Israel?

Ask the Pastor with J.D. Greear

J.D. Greear

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.9 • 624 Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2024

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Matt: J.D., this week we’re pivoting from our series on spiritual disciplines and we’ll be tackling some one-off questions our listeners have been sending us for the next few weeks. One of the topics we’ve had several people ask about is how to process what’s going on in Israel and their conflict with Gaza…

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J.D.: Yeah, Matt, wow. Well, there are a lot of very intense views on this subject. And that makes sense, because it’s a topic that combines worldview with theology—particularly eschatology, or the part of theology that concerns the end times and modern politics.

And we won’t get into a full blown “end times” episode here, but we do need a little help understanding some of the terms that get thrown around. 

“Premillennialism” is the belief that part of God’s plan for the end times involves a 1000 year reign of Jesus that is still to come, and a physical Israel is a part of that.
The relevance to this discussion is this: Many premillennialists viewed the fact that Israel has their own nation – which happened in 1948, in case you failed your history class—as at least a partial fulfillment of biblical prophecy. God was reinstituting the nation.
And that’s led to the embrace of the Zionist movement, which, practically speaking, means that anything that advances Israel’s interests is correct and functionally, means you give them an automatic pass on most questions. Their destiny is to rule the world, at least that part of it, so anything they do toward that end we’re in support of.
Let me say this clearly: that’s not true. Whatever your view of eschatology, it’s never appropriate to wink at injustice. Whatever God does, we never need to “do evil evil may that good may come.” Where Israel, as a nation, commits crimes or acts unjustly, we should unhesitatingly call it out. We should always be on the side of justice.

Now, as a pastor, I typically don’t wade into the finer points of politics or world events—neither called nor competent—and I’m not going to do that here. What I do is talk about the principles that undergird our approach, and that’s what I want to do here: to talk about is a dangerous narrative that has entered the convo that I think it’s important for Christians to identify and reject, and that is: 

That modern-day Israel has no right to the land they’re currently occupying; Israel is basically an occupying power--like Britain was in India, or even like European colonists were in parts of N America or Australia—and because they are an occupying power, whatever Palestinians do to get them out is ok. This is a decolonization project. The myth is that Palestinians were living happily in the land until GB came in and forced the colonization in 1948. And then some even like to say that the Jews there are white and it’s another example of white colonization of POC. 

But that’s a completely fallacious comparison. 
First, the Jewish presence in the land stretches back for centuries. Modern Israel is home to 9 million Jews MOST are descended from people who migrated back to the Holy Land from 1881 to 1949, before Israel became a state.So Britain didn’t bring them in.
In fact, Britain had turned against the Zionist movement in the 1930s, and from 1937 to 1939 moved toward an Arab state with no Jewish state at all
But in 1947, a compromise was made: the United Nations devised the partition of that area into two states, one Arab and Jewish. It was the “two-state solution” we hear a lot about today, BUT the reason it never happened was in 1948, Arab forces refused the two-state solution the UN sought to enact by attacking Israel. That led to the aborting the quest for a Palestinian state, because the claim was that Israel should have no part of the land, and there would be no rest until Israel as a state cEased to exist.

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, welcome to Ask the Pastor.

0:09.6

I am Matt Love.

0:10.9

I am here with Pastor J.D. Greer.

0:13.8

And I think we mentioned this in our last episode, but we're going to do a little bit of a series of some one-off questions.

0:19.2

We just did a series about spiritual disciplines. We're going to do a series of just some one-off questions we've

0:24.2

gotten from listeners that don't necessarily fit neatly in a series, but are really good questions

0:29.4

that we're excited to dive into. And we have a question today, J.D., that a lot of listeners

0:35.7

asked. So I think we're going to give, I think we're kind of combining some different questions that a lot of listeners asked. So I think we're going to give, I think we're kind

0:37.8

of combining some different questions that a lot of listeners asked. But, J.D., this is a question.

0:43.0

A lot of Christians are trying to figure out how to grapple with this. It's one of those moments

0:46.6

in our culture right now where everybody has really strong opinions. It's very fraught conversation.

0:52.9

It's tough to figure out how to navigate it with

0:54.6

the Christian worldview. So, J.D., we want to just process and hear you kind of process. How do we as

1:01.3

Christians understand and think about what is going on in Israel? Yeah, well, okay, so the most

1:08.4

obvious statement that's ever been made on Ask the Pastor or its predecessor, Ask Me Anything, is that there's a lot of really intense views on this subject.

1:17.6

And, you know, honestly, Matt, that makes sense because this is a topic that combines a lot of things.

1:23.9

It combines theology. It combines world politics. It combines even dimensions of

1:30.7

intersexuality, that whole discussion. Particularly, you know, it starts with just eschatology

1:36.3

for a lot of Christians. You know, one of the top two or three questions I get asked after

1:42.1

service or a request for me to preach on something.

1:45.2

It's almost always, hey, how about Israel?

1:47.3

Could you talk to us about Israel?

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