Should abortion be decriminalised? Lois McLatchie vs Ellie Lee hosted by Andy Kind

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🗓️ 26 January 2024

⏱️ 76 minutes

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This week in the UK, discussions are taking place in Parliament around various aspects of the Criminal Justice Bill. One of the most contentious areas is around a couple of tabled amendments* that would remove offences that make it illegal for a woman to perform a self-abortion at any point through to birth. There's lots to unpack about the potential decriminalisation of abortion, the ethical questions around a fetus's right to life and a woman's choice. Even if we can agree on when life begins how do we navigate the rights of the mother and the unborn child. Andy Kind is joined by Lois McLatchie, Senior Legal Communications Officer at ADF, and Ellie Lee, Professor of Family and Parenting Research, SSPSSR, the Director for Centre for Parenting Culture Studies and the co-author of Parenting Culture Studies. *Since this show was recorded the proposed amendments discussed in this show have been withdrawn. The matter has been postponed to the Report stage of the Criminal Justice Bill. However, it is anticipated that similar amendments will be reintroduced during the floor debate in the House of Commons, where all Members of Parliament are expected to vote on the matter. For Lois McLatchie: follow @LoisMcLatch on X formerly known as twitter For Ellie Lee: follow @CPCS_UniKent and @SSPSSR on X formerly known as Twitter For more on on this and related topics check out: Life, Equality and Choice: the abortion debate with Ann Furedi and Dr Calum Miller https://youtu.be/W6b-wKQO9gs?si=VTBN6YlSrIikZTAM Should praying outside aborting clinics be banned? with Ann Furedi and Lois McLatchie https://youtu.be/aK5anLOfRWI?si=P5G-_kK7WnK3pMkL Christianity, the sexual revolution and the future of the West with Louise Perry and Rod Dreher: https://youtu.be/MYf7aHe_GT0?si=UlTRY7GAq1HQ36Dl • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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0:00.0	Any body of medical professionals it has anything to do with, well both the management of
0:08.9	miscarriage but also the management of abortion have said that abortion needs to be taken out of the
0:14.4	criminal code because they view it as entirely wrong and unhelpful for the threat of
0:21.6	prosecution to be hanging over women who they're trying to assist.
0:29.3	I think we have to reverse this pills by post situation where women are sent these pills on their own.
0:35.6	No checks as to very difficult to check if they're being coerced.
0:38.9	And we have to have a situation where again we have much more medical oversight and we don't have women able to
0:44.3	take this dangerous decision a late term. That's the much more pro-woman approach
0:48.5	rather than saying in fact we'll make these dangerous abortions Legal will remove the criminal prohibition
0:54.3	and make it much more incentivising.
0:59.5	Hello and welcome to Unbelievable, the show that gets Christians and non-Christians
1:04.3	thinking and talking about the subjects of matter to all of us. On today's show
1:09.2	we are dealing with a tough and emotional topic, the arguments around abortion, life and the rights of both
1:16.5	the women and the children involved.
1:20.3	This week in the UK Parliament discussions are taking place around various aspects of the Criminal Justice Bill.
1:26.4	One of the most contentious areas is around a couple of amendments that would remove offenses that make it illegal for a woman to perform a self-abortion at any point
1:35.8	right through to birth. There is lots to unpack about the potential decriminalisation of abortion.
1:42.2	It needs to be noted that the bill is still being
1:44.4	discussed and debated in Parliament so there is plenty for us to discuss on today's
1:49.0	episode. I'm delighted to be joined by two experts in the field.
1:53.7	Rose McClatchy is senior legal communications officer at ADF and advocates for fundamental
2:00.1	freedoms in the court of public opinion, both in written pieces and through public speaking.
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