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🗓️ 18 August 2025
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CeCe drops big news—she’s joining Wendy Sherman Associates! Carly and CeCe dive into what it means for her clients, how agency moves work behind the scenes, and the one question every querying writer should be asking. They also pull back the curtain on what publishers try to sneak into contracts when authors don’t have agents (spoiler: it can stall your career), debate whether “referrals” in query letters really help, and unpack shocking sales figures that reveal how publishing runs on a venture-capital-style model. It’s a candid, gossipy, and eye-opening episode about power, publishing, and why writers need to think like entrepreneurs.
Note: CeCe Lyra is a literary agent at Wendy Sherman Associates. If you’d like to query CeCe, please refer to the submission guidelines at www.wsherman.com. Carly Watters is a literary agent at P.S. Literary Agency, but her work on this podcast is not affiliated with the agency, and the views expressed by Carly on this podcast are solely that of her as a podcast co-host and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of P.S. Literary Agency.
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1:28.1 | Beta-reader matchup time is happening again. |
1:31.4 | It's been so gratifying over the summer to be tagged in so many posts about beta readers |
1:36.7 | who've become writing besties and who are still going strong many years after they were |
1:42.5 | first matched. |
1:43.9 | Some even traveled to meet up and do |
1:45.9 | writing weekends together, which sounds incredible. I can't guarantee any of that. That's entirely |
1:52.7 | up to you, but what I can guarantee is that you'll be matched with a group of people working |
1:57.9 | in your genre and or time zone who will critique 3,000 words of your work as you |
2:03.5 | critique theirs in return. You can sign up from now until the 31st of August with the matchup emails |
2:10.0 | going out on the 1st of September. Head to my website, Bianca Moray.com, and look for the beta reader |
2:17.2 | matchup tab. |
2:20.1 | Welcome to another episode of Shooting the Shit with literary agents Carly Waters and |
2:25.6 | Cece Leera, where we dissect publishing gossip, discuss book industry trends and the overall state of the |
2:31.7 | book business. If you've ever wanted to grab a coffee with two literary agents, grab your mug and pull up a chair. |
2:44.2 | Hi everybody. Happy Shooting the Shit Day. We have a new episode coming at you. A very important episode for many reasons, which we'll get into. I think this has been a much anticipated episode because, you know, news that goes live on social media, makes it to the podcast on a different schedule. But Cici has the very biggest news of all, which, again, you guys would have already known by the time you make it to this episode and you click on the episode title because it's in |
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