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This is CBSi and the world. I'm John Bachelor.

I'm speaking with Jessica Pierce and Mark Beckoff.

Their new book is A Dogs World,

Imagining the lives of dogs and a world without humans, without humans. Without humans. That's important here. There's going to be a

transition and then soon there will be dogs around the planet without humans feeding them or bothering them or

abusing them or expecting them to look a certain way. They'll have longer snouts

likely, they'll run likely, they'll be of medium weight unless there's a necessity for

heavy weights they'll move in packs but reproduction Jessica I come to you because one of the striking details about dogs today is the

paternal member, the parent father, does not is not encouraged to stick around or doesn't stick around.

And you and Mark are speculating, imagining that there would likely be a change

when dogs are alone, so it wouldn't just be the maternal

it would be the paternal as well did I read that correctly Jessica you did

in the way dogs, particularly pet dogs or dogs who are, you know,

highly controlled by humans, you know, we hijack their the reproductive process in various ways and one of the ways

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