"Shocking": Trump's Use of Secret Police Is About to Get Much Darker

THE DAILY BLAST with Greg Sargent

The New Republic

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4.4 • 800 Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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In today’s episode, Democratic strategist Simon Rosenberg makes a crucial point: During months of debate about President Trump’s now-signed budget bill, there was very little public debate about what its explosion in Immigration and Customs Enforcement funding will inflict on America. Rosenberg chalks this up in part to Democrats’ failure to engage on the matter. We discuss the bill’s extraordinarily large health care cuts and its massive upward redistribution of wealth—and how Democrats should attack that. But now that it has passed, it’s also sinking in that the tens of billion of dollars the bill pours into expanding Trump’s detention complex will supercharge those masked, unidentified “secret police” that keep snatching migrants and legally-present immigrants off the streets. The whole project just got much darker. Rosenberg also discusses the intense civil conflict that this is already starting to unleash, and why it will get much worse. He reflects on how Democrats can campaign against the “shocking” darkness that Trump is inflicting on the country. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is the Daily Blast from the New Republic, produced and presented by the DSR Network.
0:16.5	I'm your host, Greg Sargent.
0:30.4	So Republicans succeeded in passing President Trump's big bill enshrining his agenda, which could leave 17 million more people without health care,
0:35.6	while massively redistributing wealth upwards via tax cuts
0:39.1	for the wealthy. The bill will also give Stephen Miller tens of billions of dollars to create a
0:45.1	huge immigration detention complex. Now what? The big question is, can Democrats get the voters to
0:52.6	see the consequences of all this and place the blame
0:55.3	for it where it belongs on Trump and the GOP in time for the midterms? But what absolutely can't
1:01.3	happen is that Democrats, lawmakers and voters alike, get demoralized and decide that nothing can
1:07.7	stop Trump and Republicans, even if it sometimes feels a lot like that.
1:12.8	So we're talking today to Democratic strategist Simon Rosenberg, author of the Hopium Chronicles,
1:18.3	which is aptly named given the mission ahead.
1:22.0	Simon, great to have you on, man.
1:24.0	Greg, it's always great to be with you.
1:26.2	So, Simon, you just wrote that we're in the middle of a very dark moment.
1:30.2	The cuts to USAID are going to kill huge numbers of poor people internationally.
1:35.2	Trump and Miller are ramping up the migrant detentions.
1:38.2	They're going to kick millions off health care.
1:40.6	They're mortgaging away our feature with massive unnecessary deficits.
1:45.8	They're killing subsidies for green energy and throwing our progress on climate change into reverse. I don't know,
1:50.8	Simon, looks pretty bad right now. Your thoughts? Thanks of all days, Greg, having me on on this
1:59.6	tough day. Look, we've had a tough week. And I think
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