Shock and Awe is NOT a Governing Strategy

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🗓️ 29 April 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Author, journalist, documentarian, and television producer, Chris Whipple, is an expert on the political game and is always VERY plugged into DC's rumor mill. This week, Chris joins Rick to discuss everything from Trump's governing chaos to the formidable Susie Wiles, to a peek behind the curtains about what was happening in the White House at the end of Biden's term and how everything transpired when the Harris campaign took over (coming from a highly reputable source). ・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・ Please check out Chris's new book, "Uncharted: How Trump Beat Biden, Harris, and the Odds in the Wildest Campaign in History," and follow Chris on X at @ccwhip and on Bluesky at @whipplc.bsky.social. Follow Rick Wilson at @TheRickWilson on X and @therickwilson.bsky.social on Bluesky, and subscribe to his Substack at therickwilson.substack.com. Join the fight with the Lincoln Project at www.lincolnproject.us and follow LP on X at @ProjectLincoln. If you'd like to help us continue our critical work, visit https://action.lincolnproject.us/helplp to make a difference. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:33.8	Campainting, you're trying to destroy your opponent.
0:37.2	Governing, you're trying to make love to your opponent. I apologize for the
0:40.8	unfortunate image. But it's true, and Trump has never understood the difference.
0:46.7	Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well equipped, and battlehardt.
0:52.7	There is not a liberal America and a conservative America.
0:57.0	There is the United States of America.
1:01.9	Good night and good luck.
1:04.0	Hey, folks, it's Rick Wilson.
1:05.1	Welcome back to the Lincoln Project podcast.
1:06.7	I am your host, as always, and I am delighted to be joined today on the show by Chris Whipple.
1:11.3	Chris is an author, a filmmaker, a guy who has written some really consequential books
1:15.7	with really deep insight into our politics, and this time he has got a banger.
1:22.7	It's called Uncharted How Trump Beat Biden, Harris, and the odds in the wildest campaign history.
1:29.3	And Chris, I wanted to first off say, I read through the book with this sense of, of, you got
1:36.7	the voices of these people and got sourcing on some of the stories here.
1:41.1	You know, we were all, we were hearing out in the political sphere out into, you know,
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