Hey there, it's Erlan and Nigel. Thank you so much to everyone who has already donated to

Radiotopia's fall fundraiser.

If you haven't donated to the network in the past, you might be wondering, where exactly

does the money go? Well the short answer is your

donation goes to ear hustle into all the shows in our network so that we can keep

making the audio that you love listening to?

The longer answer is that it takes an investment of time, energy, and yes money to create every

single episode.

There's hours of planning, interviewing, writing, editing, production, and so much more.

What about Sound Design, Erlon?

And Sound Design.

Heck yes.

Like for the episode that just came out, it's called That World. We spent months, maybe even a year,

working through permissions just to get into the prison to do interviews.

Yep, and all that came before we even started producing the episode.

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.fm slash donate to learn more and donate. Thank you so much. The translation to that is like I'm that worthless. I'm that worthless that somebody's going to come by and just whip it out, get it done, walk by, go back, you know, and when you say that recovery is a full-time job, I think

that self-worth is still coming back, you know, because you were like a used rag that could get

thrown aside, you know. I don't think I've ever said that before, so that's like a

interesting revelation.

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