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The Treatment

‘Shine Bright,’ ‘Downton Abbey: A New Era’ and the short story Seth Meyers keeps coming back to

The Treatment

KCRW

Arts

4.6639 Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

This week on The Treatment, Elvis sits down with music journalist Danyel Smith, whose newest book is “Shine Bright: A Very Personal History of Black Women in Pop.” Next, director Simon Curtis talks about his most recent film, currently on Peacock, “Downton Abbey: A New Era,” a continuation of the beloved TV series. And finally, “Late Night with Seth Meyers” host Seth Meyers tells us why a short story by George Saunders keeps his writing honest. 

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0:00.0

From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

0:14.5

It's The Treatment.

0:15.4

I'm Elvis Mitchell.

0:16.7

My guest should be Lionize alone for having been the first Black woman editor of Vibe Magazine.

0:23.6

That is not her only accomplishment.

0:25.6

She is a great writer of profiles with terrific cultural commentator.

0:27.6

We know from her work at ESPN and The Undefeated, by way, your novel Bliss is terrific.

0:32.6

I haven't read the first one, but you can say thank you on the head.

0:34.6

Thank you so much.

0:35.6

It's Danielle Smith who talking about her. new book is Shine Bright, a very personal history

0:41.3

of black women and pop. That includes you because there's a lot of you in this book, isn't

0:46.3

there?

0:47.3

There is a lot of me in this book very much. It's a combination of a merge, I should say, of biography

0:53.3

and memoir. As a writer, writing your say, of biography and memoir.

0:58.9

As a writer, writing your profiles, we had a sense of where you were in the room at all times.

0:59.8

I thought it was really interesting.

1:01.3

We always knew exactly where you were.

1:06.3

Proximity and charting proximity was really important to you because if we knew we were reading, that told us what your position in that room meant, but you weren't giving that much away about yourself.

1:12.6

No, not in my earlier stuff. I just wasn't. I mean, I started out as a columnist at the

1:18.6

alternative newsweeklies of the San Francisco Bay Area. And so it was very much like, I went to the movies.

1:24.1

I saw jungle fever. This is what I thought about it. But when I was writing

1:28.0

about other people, I honestly feel like the people that I was writing about in the 90s and the

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