Hi everybody and welcome to Ian Good Company.

I'm Nicola Tangen and the CEO of the Norwegian Soan Wealth Fund.

And today we are talking to Walesawan, the CEO of Shell.

Now, most of us associate Shell with a pit stop on the road,

but Shell is an incredible company, exploring, producing, refining, trading,

transporting, you know, things in cars, ships, planes, and so on.

In fact, I read that the amount of energy you extract in one day is enough to drive a car

back and forth through the moon more than 18,000 times.

We own 3% of the company accounting for more than 6 billion US dollars.

Well, Salaam, welcome to this podcast.

Thank you very much, Nicola.

Now, you are both Lebanese and a Canadian citizen.

So tell me, how has this shaped you as a person, you think?

Look, I think diversity of thought diversity of experiences is at the core, I suspect, of how I've grown up.

I actually lived only five years in Canada, and I've never lived in Lebanon yet of course both have had tremendous

influence through culture but what they have done has made me accept the different perspectives

that people have in different contexts and to learn from that and I think most importantly to build

resilience the Lebanese unfortunately are known for resilience,

given the many challenges the country has had. And I think resilience is what we need,

in particular in times of change, as we currently have geopolitically in the energy system and beyond.

Now, we live in a society now where there is, in many cases, very little resilience. Do you think

that background really

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