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Shedore Sanders, the Mime.

Mike, when I first saw this video, I go, oh, okay, I must have muted the tab.

Oh, I got to turn the volume up of my

laptop here. He's saying things without any sounds coming out. He won't answer questions. What the hell is

this? It was one of the more bizarre media engagements I've, I've ever seen.

I mean, look, you got to separate, like when the Ryan Leaf, you know,

leave me alone, you got to separate that stuff.

Those are meltdowns.

This was a bizarre world approach.

But again, Jim, this is my problem.

At what point, see, I don't have a nuanced way to say

this. So can I just talk playing to you like we're at dinner together? That's what a podcast is

supposed to be. Jim, at what point do we just call a spade a spade and go, this guy's an asshole?

We do it in the real world all the time. Like, you're an asshole. Like, you're an asshole. We do it in the real world all the time.

Like, you're an asshole.

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