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The Tikvah Podcast

Shay Khatiri on the Protests Riling Iran

The Tikvah Podcast

Tikvah

Judaism, Politics, Religion & Spirituality, News

4.6620 Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

On September 16, a squad of Iranian police officers arrested a twenty-two-year-old Iranian woman named Mahsa Amini. Charged with improperly wearing a hijab, Amini died in police custody. Since then, suspicion that she was beaten by Iranian forces, combined with the widespread public view that she was accosted unjustly to begin with, have catalyzed widespread protests across Iran. 

On this week’s podcast, the writer Shay Khatiri, who grew up in Iran and participated in protests against Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s election in 2009, joins us to explain how the current protests in Iran relate to those in 2009 and 2017. In conversation with Mosaic’s editor Jonathan Silver, he also thinks about where these demonstrations might lead and whether they hold promise of reform inside Iran. 

Musical selections in this podcast are drawn from the Quintet for Clarinet and Strings, op. 31a, composed by Paul Ben-Haim and performed by the ARC Ensemble.

Transcript

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0:00.0

On September 16, 2022, a squad of Iranian police officers tasked with the enforcement of Islamic

0:16.4

public morality, arrested, a 22-year-old Iranian woman of Kurdish background named Masa Amini.

0:23.9

She was brought in on charges of breaching the dress code, requiring women to don a head covering

0:30.0

known as a hijab. While in police custody, she died, and suspicion that she was beaten by Iranian

0:37.3

forces and died as a result of her abuse,

0:40.3

combined with the widespread public view that she was accosted unjustly to begin with,

0:46.3

have catalyzed widespread protests in scores of cities and towns across Iran.

0:52.3

This is not the first time that Iranians have protested their own government,

0:55.9

and the question before us now is how these protests relate to those that came before and the

1:01.1

prospects of the current protests for fundamental reform. Welcome to the Tikva podcast. I'm your host,

1:07.3

Jonathan Silver. There are any number of very smart academics and analysts of Iran who have built their careers

1:13.6

on scholarship.

1:14.9

But today I'm joined by a young man who was born and grew up there, who grew into a green

1:20.1

movement democracy activist in the aftermath of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's election in 2009, who

1:27.0

eventually felt compelled to leave his home and apply for

1:31.0

political asylum in the United States. Shea Kateri has written for us at Mosaic. He's also written

1:36.4

at the Wall Street Journal, The Bullwark, National Review, and several other publications of note.

1:41.5

Now, he joins us to discuss the political context of the current protests

1:46.4

in Iran and where they might lead. If you enjoy this conversation, you can subscribe to the

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