The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode.

Hey everyone, welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Raynor. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional, their most masterful

work for the glory of God for the good of others.

Each week I'm hosting a conversation with a Christian who's pursuing world-class

mastery of their craft.

We're talking about their paths of mastery, we're talking about their daily habits, and how their faith, how the gospel influences the work that they do each day.

Today I'm really excited to share this conversation I had with my friend

Shay Cochran. She's an incredibly impressive founder. She has built two businesses both well into six figures in revenue and

she did it while working 16 hours a week she is a masterful founder, much like her husband, Graham Cochran,

who I had on the podcast a few weeks ago.

By the way, if you haven't listened to that episode,

I would highly encourage you to check it. I was the very first episode full episode of the call to mastery

But I recently sat down with with Shay Graham's wife and Shay and I talked about our first entrepreneurial endeavors as kids.

So you get to hear what my first quote unquote business was, as well as Shay's.

And why Shay's was shut down by military police.

It's a great story behind this.

We talked about how Shay stumbled into creating essentially

this styled stock photography industry.

Shay was the first mover in what's now a pretty big niche of stock

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