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Open Source with Christopher Lydon

Shattered Dreams, Infinite Hope

Open Source with Christopher Lydon

Christopher Lydon

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4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Shattered Dreams, Infinite Hope is Brandon Terry’s long-awaited personal and philosophical case for struggle and optimism in the long civil rights movement in our country. It’s a map of our minds and our memories, a ...

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0:00.0

I'm Christopher Leiden, and this is open source.

0:03.1

All about our friend Brandon Terry and his tragic vision of the civil rights movement.

0:09.1

Shattered Dreams, Infinite Hope is your title, Brandon Terry.

0:13.3

For something more than a book, it's a map of our minds and our memories,

0:18.1

a catalog of our judgments and feelings around an epic era in American history,

0:23.6

and it's not quite over. I take it as a response, finally, to the charge leveled by the great

0:30.1

W.E.B. Du Bois that the real plot of the civil rights story got lost or suppressed long ago.

0:38.6

And I take you as a sort of meta-historian

0:41.3

telling the story of how the story gets told and revised and retold.

0:48.2

Friend and Terry, welcome back to open source,

0:50.5

and thank you for this monumental book.

0:52.4

Let's get to the heart of it,

0:53.5

which seems to me was your choice

0:56.1

to put civil rights history

0:57.7

into that tragic framework,

1:00.3

not least because you believe tragedy

1:02.1

is more hopeful

1:03.2

than the alternative romantic telling of the story.

1:07.5

Tragedy, I hear you arguing through this book,

1:10.6

is not pessimistic. It is the alternative to

1:14.1

pessimism looking forward. But let's note at the outset we're talking already about literary forms,

1:20.2

tragedy as an alternative to romance. These are storytellers categories, and you're saying

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