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Woman's Hour

Sharon D Clarke; Gender bias in school books; Outliving your mum - Claire's Story

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.13K Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

An audio adaptation of Peter Pan with music will be launched on Christmas Eve in support of Great Ormond Street Children’s Hospital, that will feature a host of actors - Olivia Colman, Bertie Carvel, Kenneth Branagh, Jane Horrocks, Clive Rowe, and Sharon D Clarke. She joins Jane to talk about her role as The Narrator, who in this version is Wendy’s great granddaughter.

A new study into gender stereotypes suggests that they’re still widespread in 2020 and causing life-long harm. The Fawcett Society has spent the last 18 months gathering evidence as part of their Gender Stereotype Commission and they say the problem persists in terms of parenting, education and the commercial sector. Jane talks to Sam Smethers from the Fawcett Society and to Sharon Hague from the education resources specialist Pearson which has contributed to the report and subsequently changed the teaching material if offers to schools.

How does it feel to reach the age your Mum was when she died? Jo Morris has been hearing from women who feel a clock ticking. Their stories are all different but they have one thing in common – none of them have felt able to talk about this before. They didn’t want to worry their loved ones or vocalise these dark thoughts. They describe their fears as well as the joy of ordinary life and the freedom that comes from realising that you are not your mother. Today, Claire's story.

We meet two more women from the Woman's Hour Power List: Our Planet. Judy Ling-Wong is the founder and Honorary President of the Black Environment Network, and Zarina Ahmad is a Climate Trainer at CEMVO Scotland. They've both dedicated their work to making the environmental sector a safer and more inclusive place for ethnic minority groups, and they join Jane to discuss the gains made and the work still to do.

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:05.4

Hi, this is Jane Garvey. Welcome to the Women's Air Podcast from Friday, the 18th of December,

0:11.1

2020.

0:12.1

Hi there, good morning. Welcome to the programme. Today we have Star of Stage and Screen

0:16.6

Sharon D. Clarke with us. We'll discuss gender stereotypes in children's schoolbooks,

0:22.3

those intrepid little boys and little girls, still a bit scared of bugs. They're all still

0:27.0

out there, incredibly. And we'll talk to two women who are working really hard to make

0:32.3

the environmental sector a more inclusive and more diverse space. As ever, you can contact

0:38.3

us on social media at BBC Women's Air or you can text the programme 84844. Text will

0:44.5

be charged at your standard, even message rate. So she can join us now. I think you're

0:50.8

at home as well, aren't you actually? Sharon D. Clarke, good morning to you. How are you?

0:54.6

I'm good morning. Good morning. Most of us are at home. Most of us at home. Yes, I'm in

0:59.3

my office. My lovely looking out at the day, hoping that the sun will shine.

1:02.7

OK, I must admit, I'm keeping a weather eye on the scaffolders opposite me. I need to

1:08.5

be focused. Absolutely focused. I'm good. There's so much we could talk to you about Sharon.

1:15.6

I suppose we should really start with what you're on to talk about, which is this audio

1:20.0

version of Peter Pan, which is coming out. I think it's available from Christmas Eve

1:24.6

and it's raising money for Great Ormond Street. So tell us a little bit about that first

1:28.7

and about the role you play in it. Well, Charlie Cameron had this fantastic idea of doing

1:34.8

something because nothing was happening. And Great Ormond Street is just such a wonderful,

1:42.4

wonderful place with the work that they do, the essential work that they do. And so she

1:47.5

was like, let's do Peter Pan. But it's not an audio book. It's a full audio play. There's

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