Shari Franke's "The House of My Mother" - Mormons React to Ruby Franke’s Daughter | Ep. 1982

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.5 • 5.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2025

⏱️ 283 minutes

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Summary

Join Lauren Johnson Matthias (@HiddenTrueCrime ) Megan Conner (@Third_Verse ) Mindy Caldwell, and John Dehlin as they react to Shari Franke's new book "The House of My Mother: A Daughter's Quest for Freedom" by Shari Franke, Ruby Franke's oldest daughter.

Show Notes

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00:02:15 Trigger warning for the book

00:14:30 Questions that will be covered in this episode involving Jodi, Ruby, Kevin, and the Mormon church

00:19:32 Ruby and Kevin’s formation of their relationship and early family life

00:28:30 Was Ruby Franke set up with a disadvantage by Mormon gender roles?

00:35:18 Personality dynamics in the Franke family and Ruby’s profile as a mom and how much room the children had for their emotions

00:39:42 Childhood emotional neglect with Ruby Franke and her children

00:43:25 The pajama story and Ruby telling Shari she’d been friends after she had a baby

00:57:38 Mormonism and Vlogging

01:05:20 Consent and ethics in family vlogging

01:12:00 Shari Franke’s mental health - thinking that her tummy aches are demonic possession

01:29:03 Ruby removed Shari from therapy after Shari wanted to quit piano

01:40:50 Shari starts her own YouTube channel, while Ruby did not help her grow it she demand some of the proceeds of the account

01:43:46 Chad’s involvement in Shari’s story

01:52:30 Why Ruby reached out to Jodi was because of Chad

02:13:30 Meeting with Jodi as their therapist and showing her business structure as a cult

02:21:10 Truth and Distortion became the bane of Shari’s existence

02:34:50 Jodi’s tactics around isolation

02:41:18 How Jodi saw sex everywhere and how she and Ruby were queer

02:49:23 Visions of Glory and how it ties in with Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt

02:56:34 Shari Franke compared Lori Vallow to Ruby Franke

03:00:30 Thom Harrison and his influence over these cult leaders within the Mormon church

03:11:35 The darkest part of the book was about Derek and Shari’s sexual assault

03:31:14 Church disciplinary part of Shari’s story involving what happened with Derek

03:41:55 Shari is familyless for a while, running into her dad on the BYU campus and he was afraid to talk to her

04:04:05 Who is the main villain in this story? Is it Jodi or Ruby?

04:12:24 Shari drawing connections in the Mormon church

04:27:15 Shari’s final comments at the end of the book about her mother being narcissistic

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome to another Shinaramoram Stories podcast. I'm your host John DeLinn. It is January 10th, 2025. Happy New Year. I'm over the moon excited, thrilled to have the band back together. We're getting the band back together. We have Lauren Johnson Matthias. Did I get the order right of your name? You did. You got it right.
0:23.5	Lauren Johnson Matthias from Hidden True Crime. We've got Megan Connor. Hey, Megan. Hi. From third verse
0:29.2	slash midlife, what? Residlife Revolution. Midlife Revolution. And we've got Binder Mom,
0:35.9	dear friend, Mindy Caldwell.
0:38.1	Hi, everybody.
0:39.3	And today we are going to be covering the brand spanking new book that just hit the
0:47.7	bookshelves, The House of My Mother, A Daughter's Quest for Freedom.
0:55.3	Sherry Frankie, and of course, Sherry Frankie is the daughter of Ruby and Kevin Frankie.
1:02.0	And this is an amazing, powerful book.
1:07.0	I'm just going to start off at the top.
1:09.4	I recommend.
1:13.4	Everyone needs to go buy this book right now.
1:18.0	I went in a little bit skeptic wondering whether it was going to be a good book.
1:19.7	Lauren, do you agree?
1:20.6	I agree.
1:21.5	I didn't know either.
1:26.7	I went in with a very open mind and I couldn't put it down, which is I think why we're all able to do this today,
1:27.6	because it just came out like two days ago, and we have all read it cover to cover.
1:30.5	I think, Megan, I think you bought your airfare like yesterday, right?
1:33.3	I literally bought my airfare yesterday morning, yes.
1:36.5	Ned flew here.
1:38.0	Yeah.
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