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And if you haven't heard part one, it just aired yesterday.

This picks up right where we left off yesterday, talking about the exit of Katie Janella and Gretchen from RHOC.

And then we get into all sorts of other things.

So listen to part one yesterday and now part two.

Let's talk about Gretchen's exit from RHOC.

And then I got some more Jeff Lewis stuff to talk about,

which the boys, I think, would rather not have me bring up, but I got other things to say.

Enjoy.

I don't think you can't.

What do you think Gretchen should have done differently?

Or how does Katie Janella, who's a very sweet person, beautiful?

I mean, she's made a beautiful life for her and her

family like get stuck in the middle of something like how do you you're in that machine

but that's the thing you can't and so to me it's like shame on Alexis and shame on

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