If you're going to ask people to do something really hard, leverage their interest.

That's how you teach them to do that other thing because you're not having them also fight their attention to do that thing.

Hello and welcome to the women and ADHD podcast. I'm your host, Katie Weber. I was diagnosed with

ADHD at the age of 45, and it completely turned my world upside down. I've been looking back

at so much of my life, school, jobs, my relationships, all of it with this new lens, and it has been nothing short of overwhelming.

I quickly discovered I was not the only woman to have this experience, and now I interview

other women who, like me, discovered in adulthood they have ADHD, and are finally feeling

like they understand who they are and how to best lean into their strengths,

both professionally and personally.

Welcome, here we are at episode 199.

Wow, it feels really good to say that.

In which I interview Shannon Palma.

Shannon is the founder of ITI Assistive technologies and co-leader of the Autistic

Self-Reliance Support Network. Shannon is autistic and has ADHD, and she's building the kind of

tools that she wished had existed when she was first discovering how to get the right support

for her neurodivergent brain. Prior to her dual diagnosis,

Shannon was a professor who left academia due to severe burnout. Once she received her diagnosis,

she started looking for resources and support, as one does, but soon recognized a huge gap in support for autistic and ADHD adults, especially when it came to executive functioning and decision-making.

So in true neurodivergent style, she decided to make them herself.

Shannon and I dive into her personal story of burnout and delayed diagnosis, and how decision

fatigue nearly shut down her life. Shannon shares how she and her team created Decide, an AI-powered support app

built by and for neurodivergent adults. We also explore why tools designed by neurotypical brains

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