Shams Charania, Kenny Beecham & Cam Johnson | The Media’s Role in the NBA, Breaking the Luka Doncic Trade, the MVP Debate

The Young Man and the Three

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4.8 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 14 March 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

We have an amazing episode of ‘The Young Man and the Three’ this week with ESPN’s Shams Charania, Enjoy Basketball’s Kenny Beecham, and Brooklyn Nets forward Cam Johnson. The episode opens with Kenny, Cam, and Tommy Alter discussing the current NBA MVP race between Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (Oklahoma City Thunder) and Nikola Jokic (Denver Nuggets). Then, Shams joins the show. Shams and Kenny share how they both achieved their current positions in the NBA media landscape. The group then has a very nuanced, thoughtful discussion about the current media landscape in the NBA and the role the media plays. Shams then shares insane, untold stories about the behind-the-scenes of the night he broke the news about the historic Luka Doncic-Anthony Davis trade between the Los Angeles Lakers and Dallas Mavericks, and Kenny and Cam shares thoughts on the reactions of the Mavericks fan base. They also recall the night that Cam Johnson was traded to the Nets with Kevin Durant and Mikal Bridges. They, of course, also share what their current favorite storylines and what they’re looking forward to the rest of the season. Let’s go.

0:00 Intro

1:09 Kenny and Cam on the MVP race

7:19 Shams joins the show

7:49 Shams and Kenny share their career arcs and backgrounds

19:14 The media’s role and criticisms in the NBA

27:55 Shams on breaking the Luka Doncic trade

37:25 Kenny and Cam on the reaction of Mavs fans

45:25 The night Cam, KD, and Mikal Bridges were traded to the Nets

50:34 Trades from a player’s perspective and analyzing trades

56:55 Favorite storylines and thoughts on the rest of the season

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1:44.7	We have Mr. Cam Johnson in the building, Mr. Kenny Beacham in the building, and we had a special appearance from Mr. Shams Sharania, who sent out 19 tweets during the interview and is now rushed off.
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1:46.6	but we've a great hour-long conversation we had with him as well,
1:50.2	live from the west side of Chicago.
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