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Folger Shakespeare Library: Shakespeare Unlimited

Shakespeare, Science, and Art

Folger Shakespeare Library: Shakespeare Unlimited

Folger Shakespeare Library

Arts

4.7837 Ratings

🗓️ 5 January 2021

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Does Hamlet live in a Ptolemaic or Copernican solar system? Is Queen Mab a germ? Which falls faster: a feather or the Duke of Gloucester? In Shakespeare’s time, new scientific discoveries and mathematical concepts were upending the way people looked at their world. Many of those new ideas found their ways into his plays. We speak with Dr. Natalie Elliot about how Shakespeare interpreted the scientific innovations of the early modern period in his art. She is interviewed by Barbara Bogaev. Dr. Natalie Elliot is a storyteller, science writer, and a member of the faculty at St. John’s College. Her essay “Shakespeare’s Worlds of Science” was published in the Winter 2018 edition of The New Atlantis. Elliot is currently working on two books: an exploration of Shakespeare's engagement with early modern science called "Shakespeare and the Theater of the Universe," and a comic novel about woolly mammoths called "Megafauna." From the Shakespeare Unlimited podcast. Published January 5, 2021. © Folger Shakespeare Library. All rights reserved. This podcast episode, “If This Be Magic, Let It Be an Art,” was produced by Richard Paul. Garland Scott is the associate producer. It was edited by Gail Kern Paster. Ben Lauer is the web producer, with help from Leonor Fernandez. We had technical help from Andrew Feliciano and Evan Marquart at Voice Trax West in Studio City, California.

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0:00.0

When all the things you think you know about the world's touch ground and dash themselves to pieces,

0:06.0

where do you turn for answers?

0:13.0

From the Folger Shakespeare Library, this is Shakespeare Unlimited.

0:19.0

I'm Michael Whitmore, the Folgers director.

0:22.9

It's out of fashion to say it these days, but for a long time, the era when Shakespeare was

0:27.8

writing was called the Renaissance, a time when parts of Western Europe were moving away

0:33.8

from centuries under a dogmatic reliance on a biblical understanding of the way

0:38.8

the world worked.

0:40.7

As that story goes, in the late 16th and early 17th centuries, scientific breakthroughs

0:46.6

were upending the way people understood the heavens, the earth, and the air, even numbers.

0:53.1

Just like today, not everyone fell in line with what science was telling them,

0:57.6

and just like today, the societal upheaval could be enormous and unsettling. Back then,

1:05.0

like now, it's often artists who help us understand profound change in the world.

1:10.8

And if you look closely at Shakespeare's plays, you'll see characters wrestling with the

1:15.1

era's new understandings of science all over the place.

1:19.5

Shakespeare referred to autopsies, to germs, to physics.

1:24.0

He wrote lines that show he knew about the slow revolution going on in Europe as the theories

1:29.3

of Copernicus began to drive out the long-held ideas of the first-century mathematician, Ptolemy.

1:35.3

He also appears to have known the work of Lucretius, the Roman poet and philosopher who first broached the idea that atoms exist.

1:45.0

This link between art and science in Shakespeare has long been a fascination of Dr. Natalie

1:51.0

Elliot.

1:52.0

And a couple of years back, she wrote an article about it for the science publication, The New Atlantis.

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