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Folger Shakespeare Library: Shakespeare Unlimited

Shakespeare in Black and White (rebroadcast)

Folger Shakespeare Library: Shakespeare Unlimited

Folger Shakespeare Library

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4.7837 Ratings

🗓️ 1 September 2020

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

In the second of two episodes about Black Americans and Shakespeare, we talk with scholars Marvin MacAllister and Ayanna Thompson about the period between the end of the Civil War and the 1950s: from Reconstruction, through the period of Jim Crow segregation, and into the Civil Rights Era. We’ll take a look at landmark performances like Orson Welles’s 1936 all-Black Macbeth and Paul Robeson’s groundbreaking Othello. We’ll also hear a less familiar story that dramatizes the tensions surrounding Shakespeare in the Black American theater—one set at Washington, DC’s Howard University, where a young Toni Morrison played Queen Elizabeth in the university’s production of Richard III in the early 1950s. Ayanna Thompson is a Professor of English and the director of the Arizona Center for Medieval and Renaissance Studies at Arizona State University. Marvin McAllister is an Associate Professor of Theatre at Winthrop University in Rock Hill, South Carolina. They are interviewed by Rebecca Sheir. From the Shakespeare Unlimited podcast. ©Folger Shakespeare Library. All rights reserved. This podcast episode, "Our Own Voices with Our Own Tongues," was originally published January 28, 2015, and rebroadcast with an updated introduction September 1, 2020. This episode was produced by Richard Paul. Garland Scott is the associate producer. It was edited by Gail Kern Paster and Esther Ferington. Esther French and Ben Lauer are the web producers. Special thanks Dr. James Hatch, co-author, with the late Errol Hill, of A History of African American Theatre; Connie Winston, Anthony Hill and Doug Barnett, co-authors of The Historical Dictionary of African American Theatre; and Jobie Sprinkle and Tena Simmons at radio station WFAE in Charlotte, North Carolina.

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0:00.0

Sometimes a story is just too big to tell all at once.

0:05.3

But that's the nice thing about podcasts.

0:08.0

They give you plenty of room to stretch out.

0:17.3

From the Folger Shakespeare Library, this is Shakespeare Unlimited.

0:22.7

I'm Michael Whitmore, the Folgers, director.

0:25.6

This is part two of a series we created in 2015 on the African-American experience with the performance of Shakespeare.

0:34.4

In the other podcast episode, we looked at the extraordinary history of African

0:39.0

Americans who performed Shakespeare well before the Civil War, and a wealth of stories

0:44.4

about African American performances of and perspectives on Shakespeare in the last 60 years

0:50.7

or so. And to be honest, that's an approach to the topic that's fairly common.

0:56.4

But you might notice it leaves out something big, close to a century, from after the Civil

1:03.1

War through the Jim Crow era of segregation to the 1940s and 50s. A lot of that territory has been explored far less often, and of course,

1:14.6

that makes it all the more interesting. When we first started looking at this time period,

1:20.1

we discovered some wonderfully rich material, and we brought together two of the handful of scholars

1:25.9

who have delved into it.

1:28.0

One is Ianna Thompson, professor of English and director of the Arizona Center for Medieval

1:34.1

and Renaissance Studies at Arizona State University.

1:37.7

The other is Marvin McAllister, Associate Professor of Theater at Winthrop University in Rock Hill, South Carolina.

1:46.1

We call this podcast, our own voice with our own tongues.

1:51.4

Marvin and Ianna were interviewed by Rebecca Shear.

1:54.7

So Marvin McAllister, I know that after the Civil War, and for a few years before the Jim Crow laws came into force,

2:01.4

there was a period when African Americans in the South not only voted, but they even held

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