Shai Saves the Thunder, and the NBA Finals Are Now 2-2: All the Drama in the NBA With Bill Simmons.

The Zach Lowe Show

The Ringer

Basketball, Sports

5 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2025

⏱️ 86 minutes

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After a riveting Game 4 of the NBA Finals in Indianapolis, Bill Simmons joins Zach to break it all down (1:52): Did tonight’s game decide the NBA title? They discuss Shai’s stellar MVP performance (16:51) and adjustments from both teams as it’s now a best-of-three for the championship. The pair close the night out with some groggy late-night offseason thoughts (57:57), featuring Giannis, KD, Booker, and … LeBron?! All that and more from Zach and Bill. Host: Zach Lowe Guest: Bill Simmons Producers: Jesse Aron, Jonathan Frias, and Kai Grady The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Get started today at HubSpot.com/AI Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Every runner knows the moment when everything clicks.
0:04.0	When your legs lock into a rhythm, the aches float away and doubts fade.
0:08.0	Replaced by a feeling of euphoria.
0:12.0	It's why you lace up at dawn.
0:15.0	Why a little rain doesn't stop you.
0:17.0	Why one run turns into a habit.
0:24.3	So next time you go for a run, chase that runs high.
0:28.1	Learn more about running and go wild at puma.com.
0:30.7	Woo!
0:34.1	Coming up on the Zach Lowe show, I got Bill Simmons.
0:35.9	He's right there in the same room as me.
0:37.8	We were just at Pacers Thunder.
0:38.9	Game four.
0:42.0	It's down to three games for the NBA title.
0:45.2	An absolute war of attrition, defensive battle.
0:46.0	I'm drained.
0:47.7	I'm emotionally drained and physically drained.
0:48.7	I didn't play in the game.
0:50.8	Are you physically and emotionally drained?
0:52.4	We're going to talk about everything that happened in the game if I can remember any of it.
0:53.6	I felt like I played.
0:56.7	And also I felt the energy of the crowd
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