Hi, it's episode 142, and today we're talking with a home organizer.

And as a messy person, this conversation makes me a little nervous.

You are listening to the Simple Families Podcast, a Q&A-style show that brings you

solutions for living well with family. Here's your host, Deney Barajona.

Thanks so much for tuning in. It's Deny and this is episode 142. Today I'm talking with professional home organizer Rachel Rosenthal. This is the first time I've ever had a home organizer on the

podcast and that's mostly because I don't tend to be very organized and I think

this is an important distinction for people to understand that just because you're a minimalist and you have fewer things

Doesn't mean that you are necessarily tidier or less messy by nature because I know that's not true for me.

I have a really hard time sticking with any sort of complex organizational system.

So having fewer things has been a godsend for me as far as keeping our house tidier and lighter.

So Rachel and I are talking about these things today,

minimalism versus organizing and some of her favorite tips to get started.

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