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HBR. You're listening to Women at Work from Harvard Business Review. I'm Enie Gallo. Hosting

this podcast has driven home one of the frustrating but true realities of

workplace cultures. Sexism is of the is inadequate are unfair parental leave policies. It also shows up in the assignments

and feedback and ratings that managers give us, or the credit and promotions and raises that

they don't. But knowing that sexism is everywhere doesn't soften the shock

when it happens to you. Like when somebody interrupts you over and over or takes credit for your

idea in a meeting, or when you receive an end of year rating that just doesn't align with your

actual performance. A lot of sexism is insidious, not blatant, which means it can be tough to discern whether something

a colleague or a client did or didn't do is in fact because of bias.

And that can lead to a lot of self-down. So if in some cases, maybe most,

we'll never know what drove their actions, how do we make peace with that uncertainty?

And when is confronting that person about the potential bias worth our energy?

Two women who study gender stereotypes and unconscious bias are here to talk through these questions with me.

Katie Kaufman is an economist and professor at Harvard Business School, where she studies how stereotypes impact our beliefs about ourselves.

Michelle De Guigd is a professor at Cornell and the school's Associate Dean of Diversity,

Inclusion, and Belonging. Michelle, Katie, thank you so much for joining us.

Great to be here.

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