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Woman's Hour

Sexism in football, Mum rage, China's MeToo

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.13K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

The managing director of AFC Wimbledon has resigned after being secretly recorded making sexist and abusive comments about a female colleague, just two months after publicly committing to tackling sexism as part of the Her Game Too campaign. Emma Barnett gets reaction from Lewes FC Chief Executive Maggie Murphy and Yvonne Harrison, CEO of Women in Football.

Minna Dubin is the author of Mum Rage: The Everyday Crisis of Modern Motherhood. It's a book inspired by her own experiences and she then spent three years speaking to other mothers, to build up a picture that goes beyond her own domestic sphere.

In 2021, prominent Chinese journalist and #MeToo activist Sophia Huang Xueqin was arrested and jailed. Unseen for the last two years, the Chinese Government announced that her closed-door trial began on Friday. Journalist Jessie Lau joins Emma to discuss the latest in this case.

Emma talks to author Ysenda Maxtone Graham about her new book Jobs for the Girls which gives a snapshot of British women's working lives from 1950, through cardigans and pearls, via mini-skirts and bottom-pinching, to shoulder pads and the ping of the first emails in the early 1990s.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I'd like to introduce myself.

0:03.7

My name's Stevie Middleton and I'm a BBC Commissioner for a Load of Sport Podcasts.

0:08.4

I'm lucky to do that at the BBC because I get to work with a leading journalist, experienced

0:12.2

pundits and the biggest sport stars.

0:14.3

Together we bring you untold stories and fascinating insights straight from the players'

0:18.5

mouths.

0:19.5

But the best thing about doing this at the BBC is our unique access to the sport in world.

0:25.0

What that means is that we can bring you podcasts that create a real connection to

0:28.8

dedicated sports fans across the UK.

0:31.2

So if you like this podcast, head over to BBC Sounds where you'll find plenty more.

0:40.9

Hello, I'm Emma Barnett and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4.

0:45.6

Good morning.

0:46.5

There's a story we want to bring to your attention today, one that perhaps has not had

0:51.4

enough coverage, especially in light of the lioness's international success,

0:55.9

and a great deal of public commitment by the football world to so-called diversity and inclusion.

1:02.3

I say so-called because it's this, the managing director of a men's football club

1:08.4

has been secretly recorded using sexist and abusive language, specifically calling

1:15.0

his female colleague a slut and a slag and joking about murdering her.

1:22.0

You don't have to care about football to pay attention to this story, because at the

1:26.8

heart of it is seemingly a perfect example of a business and a person, a leader, saying one

1:33.7

thing publicly and a very different thing privately.

1:37.2

And yes, the person in question didn't know he was being recorded, I'll get to that in that detail.

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