Hi, everyone, this is And Just Like That, The Writers Room, the official companion podcast from HBO Max and Pineapple Street Studios.

I'm Michael Patrick King, executive producer, writer, and director of, and just like that.

And here with me, as always, we have executive producer and writer Julie Rottenberg.

Hiya.

And executive producer and writer, Alisa Zoritzki.

Hi, everyone.

Hi.

Okay, well, we'll get to episode seven in a minute, and it is called Sex and the Widow,

but I'd like to remind you or gently push you. If you haven't seen episodes one through six,

please go watch them now. And seven. And then come back, and hopefully you'll know what we're

talking about. It won't be so much of a parlor game as what? What?

Oh, oh yeah. Okay, now I know what they meant. All right. So this is Sex and the Widow, and it is written by

Julie and Elisa. Very exciting. It's actually the first time the word widow is used in the show.

And it's funny because originally that idea of being a widow was going to be front and center in this episode.

So we were protecting that word viciously the whole series won through this episode.

And we wound up discovering it had a different heart

at the center of the episode than the word widow,

but it is something that we felt like we had to address,

the horrible W word.

And the widow actually was such a big story

that we realized that the heart of this show really was not that she was a widow,

but that she was a widow who was going on a date. So it was the long-aw-aw-waited,

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